Examples of wars with no real "good side" and "bad side"

[Dandelion]

Not really, actually. The Indonesians were left with a railway system, postal service, sewer system, dams, improved agriculture. That was Dutch tax money. What did the Jews ever give us ? Hell: the Indonesians still use a ton of Dutch words and when they recently had to update their law books they flew in Dutch assistants to help out because Dutch law works so well that they, pretty much, intent to keep some of its ideas. One can, very strongly, see the influence of soevereiniteit in eigen kring in pancasila.

And conversely, the Dutch also still use a lot of Hebrew words, many of which aren't even slang but everyday language.

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Categ...ed_from_Hebrew

Those words will stay for centuries to come.

[Longbowman]

Lawspeaker's insane level of blame-shoving and Jew-hatred is crippling. First, what Ovadia Yosef's son said about children and students letting other people copy their homework (literally!) is obviously not a binding Jewish law, and you only showcase, yet again, your disingenuity by presenting it differently. As for the conspiracism - yes, Einstein stole his ideas, Shakespeare was a fraud, blah blah blah no.

Second, the Biblical account is anachronistically written to make it seem like the Jews were more at fault for dealing with their own internal affairs as they saw fit - let's not be hypocrites, o great Dutch nationalist - than they actually were. At the time, in fact, the Jews had only limited control over their own affairs, and even their puppet-kings were ethnic Edomites - the Herodian dynasty having been given control of Judaea as a reward for supporting Caesar, so, the Romans didn't even respect the Jews enough to have a Davidian or even a Hasmonean as de jure head of state (de facto, of course, Pontius Pilate and other Roman leaders were heads of state). The reality is that the Romans clearly killed Jesus for sedition. In the Bible the pharisees are presented as fomenting dislike for Jesus, which might be true, but only the Romans had the authority to execute him, and the Bible doesn't pretend otherwise. Either way, Jesus and all his disciples were Jews, so, even if other Jews personally nailed him to a cross - and it wasn't, it was Europeans who did it - you're welcome. Galileo was heavily persecuted by his fellow Italians during his lifetime but no one attributes his achievements to Arabs or whatever.

[The Lawspeaker]

And conversely, the Dutch also still use a lot of Hebrew words, many of which aren't even slang but everyday language.

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Categ...ed_from_Hebrew

Those words will stay for centuries to come.

Probably not. A lot of those words are Amsterdam dialect. A dialect which is in decline because of the influx the same Amsterdam Jews caused. Jews - Dutch Labor. Essentially the same thing.

[The Lawspeaker]

And, as far as the Muslim migrants going after Amsterdam's Jews are concerned - I think native Dutch should, in no circumstance, assist those Jews. It's not our war and those are the people that brought in those migrants to supplant the Dutch. So, in a way: there is karma involved. Indeed: in Amsterdam polls, parties like the VVD, GroenLinks and the PvdA still score high with the local Jews, even though those are the same parties that have been bringing in the migrants. Seems like there is a little "let's fuck up this country before we move on to the next" going on. Basically, the traditional method. Well too bad that not everybody in the world can be your shabbos goy and buy into the nonsense.

[pulstar]

No, it did not give any ethnicity right to secede, it gave right to secede only to federal Republics. Stop fantasizing, it was Milošević speeches and acts that turned Yugoslavia in flames, you dirty troll.

Who is paying you ?

It wasn't me officer: This document

[Peterski]

No, it did not give any ethnicity right to secede, it gave right to secede only to federal Republics.

International law is above your constitution and based on it Serbs had the right to self-determination.

Of course we both know that it remains a legal fiction and in reality everyone has to fight for it (very few examples in history when the right to self-determination was actually respected without bloodshed).

[Tooting Carmen]

Yet again a lot of off-topic. Someone (Longbowman again maybe?) please remove all the stuff about Jews in particular to another thread.