Examples of wars with no real "good side" and "bad side"

**Longbowman** · 10-21-2018, 03:31 PM

It's funny. I told you you engage in tu quoque instead of the point and you just go on and on. Obviously the Jews didn't 'plan the Armenian genocide.' I'm sure a handful were involved as loyal Ottoman citizens. And I'm not revisiting your permanent crusade to shift blame for all European sins purely on the Jews.

One day, maybe, all the Jews will disappear and the problems will remain. And you'll have to find a new scapegoat. Who knows? Maybe it will be you.

**Loki** · 10-21-2018, 03:31 PM

Originally Posted by The Lawspeaker

Funny. I don't trust that figure since real wages in the Netherlands haven't grown for over 25 years because prices have shot up dramatically.

That could mean it's the richest 10% or so who have been enriched, like the big corporations, and then on average that pulls up the GDP per capita... so probably inequality has increased dramatically at the expense of the average citizen.

**Insuperable** · 10-21-2018, 03:32 PM

Originally Posted by pulstar

Essentially when he mentioned "medieval kingdom of Croatia" he was talking of this territory, and it was clear to other thats a call for war.

That is just putting words into someone's mouth. Milosevic said he wanted a new stronger Yugoslavia with headquarters in Belgrade and Tuđman said he felt his duty is to rebuild Croatian kingdom. Kingdom with the small letter k the way he said it. There were already defined borders of Socialist Republic of Croatia and everybody knew what independence referendum was referring to.

**The Lawspeaker** · 10-21-2018, 03:33 PM

Originally Posted by Longbowman

It's funny. I told you you engage in tu quoque instead of the point and you just go on and on. Obviously the Jews didn't 'plan the Armenian genocide.' I'm sure a handful were involved as loyal Ottoman citizens. And I'm not revisiting your permanent crusade to shift blame for all European sins purely on the Jews.

One day, maybe, all the Jews will disappear and the problems will remain. And you'll have to find a new scapegoat. Who knows? Maybe it will be you.

I think the opposite will happen: the Jew disappears from our land and we suddenly find out how much damage he has done and we're going to find a lot of dirt underneath the carpet. In other words: we'll be left to clean up the Jew's mess but that's o.k: we will be in control over our own country and our own destiny again.

**The Lawspeaker** · 10-21-2018, 03:34 PM

Originally Posted by Loki

That could mean it's the richest 10% or so who have been enriched, like the big corporations, and then on average that pulls up the GDP per capita... so probably inequality has increased dramatically at the expense of the average citizen.

That's what I believe to be the case: the money stays with the richest 10% and is taken from the country and, simply, vanishes.

**Loki** · 10-21-2018, 03:34 PM

Originally Posted by Longbowman

It's funny. I told you you engage in tu quoque instead of the point and you just go on and on. Obviously the Jews didn't 'plan the Armenian genocide.' I'm sure a handful were involved as loyal Ottoman citizens. And I'm not revisiting your permanent crusade to shift blame for all European sins purely on the Jews.

One day, maybe, all the Jews will disappear and the problems will remain. And you'll have to find a new scapegoat. Who knows? Maybe it will be you.

White people already are the scapegoats for all the world's ills... white men in particular.. and no-one is allowed to blame the Jews for anything in public, because that's "anti-Semitism", and it's illegal.

**Longbowman** · 10-21-2018, 03:35 PM

Originally Posted by The Lawspeaker

I think the opposite will happen: the Jew disappears from our land and we suddenly find out how much damage he has done and we're going to find a lot of dirt underneath the carpet.

Sort of like the Dutch in Indonesia

**Longbowman** · 10-21-2018, 03:36 PM

Originally Posted by Loki

White people already are the scapegoats for all the world's ills... white men in particular.. and no-one is allowed to blame the Jews for anything in public, because that's "anti-Semitism", and it's illegal.

Right, but all of us here are opposed to blaming white people. I think it's a bit hypocritical to want to blame Jews for all the world's ills. Just because leftists are hypocritical doesn't give all of us the right to be.

**The Lawspeaker** · 10-21-2018, 03:37 PM

But believe me: in those days, a lot of books and articles will be published (including whatever documents we will then find), so the world knows what has stay hidden for so long . Whether the world apologizes to the whites or not ? I don't even care. But they will know who the real guilty party, the hand in the back, was.

**The Lawspeaker** · 10-21-2018, 03:38 PM

Originally Posted by Longbowman

Sort of like the Dutch in Indonesia

Not really, actually. The Indonesians were left with a railway system, postal service, sewer system, dams, improved agriculture. That was Dutch tax money. What did the Jews ever give us ? Hell: the Indonesians still use a ton of Dutch words and when they recently had to update their law books they flew in Dutch assistants to help out because Dutch law works so well that they, pretty much, intent to keep some of its ideas. One can, very strongly, see the influence of soevereiniteit in eigen kring in pancasila.