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    NUDITY IN THE CZECH REPUBLIC

    Czechs are considered shy when it comes to talking to strangers, sharing private information and they avoid sitting next to each other as much as possible on public transportation. Despite all of this, Czechs are very open about nudity.

    It’s not uncommon to see parents helping their young children squat to use the restroom on a busy street and women are comfortable sunbathing topless in a park when it’s warm outside. At gyms and pools men and women strut nakedly around changing rooms, even when they are co-ed. Then there are saunas where you will be judged for wearing swim wear because being naked is the norm.

    Nude beaches for example are quite popular all over the Czech Republic. In Prague, Koupaliště Džbán might be the best known place to swim and sunbathe in your birthday suit. But in the colder months you can enjoy some ‘naturalist’ swimming at Sokol Vinohrady. The pool is located at Riegrovy Sady and nude swimming takes place on Tuesdays from 19:25 – 20:45. Other days and times, clothing is (un)fortunately a must.

    Being naked is so popular in the Czech Republic that there is even a website for it. Naturista.cz is a community (Federation of Naturalists ČFN) that gathers information and resources for fellow nudists. Just don’t go throwing that term around because “naturalist” is preferred.

    Their slogan is “the naked truth must defeat the disguised lie” and the website has interesting articles, discussions and everything you need to know about being naked – they even have tips for first timers. Most of the website is in Czech but the website has English, German and French information: cultural differences and nationality make no difference when you’re naked.

    The No Pant Subway Ride Day may be a popular annual event in Prague but it is nothing compared to topless waitresses. Restaurace Kovářská is one of the places that have “nahoře bez” days where the waitresses serve beers and food topless. This is usually announced beforehand on Facebook and is a very Czech experience.

    The waitresses are regular women and there is nothing erotic about these events. But although they are considered perfectly normal, they are seen less and less. However it is places like these that show the open attitude that Czechs have about nudity. While in some countries being naked may have a different connotation, in the Czech Republic it is considered something natural.

    This mindset is instilled in Czechs from an early age. In pre-school and kindergarten children use a co-ed bathroom without stalls. By seeing naked bodies in normal settings they grow up to be unashamed and accepting nakedness as a normal part of life. This open attitude is one of the many great things that you can learn about Czechs if you look beyond the clothed surface – quite literally in this case.

    https://prague.tv/en/s72/Directory/c...Czech-Republic

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    Just as Paris is the capital of 'covered' fashion, Prague is capital of nude fashion obviously.



    Slavs are more leaning to nudity than other people for good reason, until 7th century AD they were living naked in forests and swamps in a primitive uncivilized and violent environment. After the downfall of Christianity in their socieities, they reenact their ancestral traditions. That's in their genes.

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    American experience in Czechia. Clash with local culture.
    We learn that in nudist just as non-nudist Czech environments, peeing out publicly is also the norm in that country until a certain age.
    That's actually very natural too.

    Nudity: Getting (Un)dressed in the Czech Republic

    As a heat wave hit Prague this spring, clothes came off faster than the record breaking temperatures rose. Strolling through Prague's parks, I encountered locals sunning themselves and even saw a few toddlers in the buff testing out the city's newly activated fountains. While I managed to keep my own and my kids' clothes on (though I lost the battle over shoes), I noticed many Czechs of both genders stripped down to their underwear in the public parks.

    While I would consider sunning in my bra and panties in the park risqué, Czechs find it quite natural. In America, if I saw an elderly man sitting on a park bench in his underwear with his pants neatly folded beside him, I would do a double take and wonder if he was mentally stable, but here the scene occurs with such frequency and normalcy that the only thing awkward is my own gaping mouth.

    To give myself credit, over the years of living in the Czech Republic and being married to a Czech, I've gotten used to the Czech's laissez faire attitude toward nudity and my head doesn't spin as fast as it used to when I see a body part (or even the hint of a body part) that I think I shouldn't.

    After several springs of driving through Czech villages watching men working in their gardens in nothing but boxer shorts and catching a few women in their bras, I finally realized that it wasn't so much the lack of clothing that caught my eye, as it was the fact that in my mind I categorized under garments as something to be worn "under" regular clothing. If I'd seen the same people wearing bathing suits, I probably wouldn't have thought twice. But what would be the point of wasting a perfectly good bathing suit to dirty garden-work?

    Even once my eyes got used to the sight of underwear being exposed, my American sensibilities were reinforced when my mother visited this spring. After watching our neighbor working in his garden wearing just boxers, she commented, "Now he needs to put some clothes on." When Anna Lee (4) asked her grandmother if she could be naked for awhile to sun herself in the front yard, I was surprised when my mom agreed and said, "Ok, but leave on your panties." Stripping down to her panties delighted Anna and she paraded through the yard, conveniently stepping out of them as soon as our attention had focused elsewhere.

    Underwear, again, became a hot topic during my mom's visit when Anna Lee was getting ready for bed. Although her Czech babička insists it isn't healthy to sleep in panties because the body needs a chance to air out (I personally agree), Anna's American grandmother insisted on wearing panties, relenting only to say, "Oh, just pick a loose pair."

    As a kid, I grew up wearing panties to bed, except for the nights I spent with my German grandmother when the European custom of "airing out" took precedence. From talking to both my Czech and non-Czech friends here, it seems that the American moms are the only ones stuck on wearing underwear to bed. Even my Australian and British friends have mentioned the necessity of giving the body a break from tight underclothes and encourage their kids to sleep without underwear.

    As time goes on, the Czech culture continues to rub off on me, but there are still occasions when my American sensibilities come to the forefront. Although I've adapted to the fact that it is socially acceptable for Czech children (both sexes up to age 6 or so) to pee out in the open in public places (usually near a tree or a patch of grass although any open grate suffices), I am always taken aback when I pass a grown man in the middle of a public pee. I am instantly embarrassed for the peeing guy, even though it's clear he couldn't care less if anyone's watching him.

    The most obvious case of peeing in public I've witnessed happened in the middle of a traffic jam near Prague's Letná Park. While I waited in a line of stopped traffic, I watched an elderly gentleman in a suit put his car into park, set his brake and run across oncoming traffic for a roadside pee. Although traffic started moving while he was doing his business, no one honked and no one shouted at him to hurry up. Having walked through Prague many a day with a painfully full bladder I was envious, but still a little deterred by the openness of the scene.

    Coming from a culture where even breastfeeding in public garners criticism as being overtly "sexy" or "promiscuous," I am often struck by the dichotomy between the Czechs' ambivalence about nudity and their staunch support for breastfeeding as compared to their taste as a culture for explicitly sexy advertising.

    The Czech's stance on breastfeeding in public as a mother's (and child's) natural right even prompted the renowned Czech photographer Sara Saudková to photograph Czech mothers as part of the Dec 2008 protest against the Facebook website for removing breastfeeding photos from users' personal accounts.

    While sunbathing topless in Prague's pools or breastfeeding an 18-month-year-old at the park doesn't raise an eyebrow, in contrast using the image of a toned, tanned topless or nude woman is a culturally accepted way of using sex appeal to advertise anything from a gym membership to a new clothing line. According to cultural mores, being sexy goes hand in hand with being a Czech female and as such it is okay to suggest that by working out at the gym you can have the sexy body of a porn star. It's not likely a Czech would complain about the ads being promiscuous because advertising sex in mainstream ads is a matter of course.

    I remember once getting into an argument with Radek after he, unsolicited, commented that our (young, unmarried, female) banker, who happened to be wearing a see-through shirt with a lacy bra underneath, had on a nice looking outfit that day. When I questioned him further, he claimed that it was perfectly tasteful for the banker to be sexy. I didn't disagree, but I knew that you'd never see an American banker on the job wearing a similarly revealing outfit.

    I've come to realize that the average Czech has a different radar for sex/sexy appeal than I do. Already, I'm shocked by the clothes that my mother-in-law picks out for Anna Lee. While my mother tends to buy Anna a preppy skirt with matching tee-shirt and sweater, Radek's mother is all about the glitz and the glitter, buying tee-shirts with graphics showing scantily rock-stars in high heels and mini-skirts. Of course, Anna uses this to her advantage.

    Without being overtly coached on how to be "sexy," Anna's natural instinct is to pick clothes with glitter and glitz. She likes running naked because it's hassle-free, but when it comes to choosing outfits, she invariably picks the hot, flashy skirt with the matching glittery shirt that Nada bought over the more little-girl, buttoned-up style more in line with what my mom and I prefer. Keeping in mind that Anna is still forming her own impressions, I try to keep her dressed age-appropriate as long as she's with me. When she's visiting either grandmother, I leave them to work it out for themselves.

    Getting dressed and undressed is ultimately a personal matter. However, living in the Czech Republic continues to open my eyes to the vastly different ways that nudity, breastfeeding and sex in advertising come to us through cultural filters. Who knows, before too long you may find me relaxing on a bench in Riegrovy sady in my white bra and panties. If so, please take a picture for my mother.
    http://praguemonitor.com/2009/04/24/...czech-republic
    We should congratulate Czech for their openness. I hope one day I can visit that country at summer times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Böri View Post
    until 7th century AD they were living naked in forests and swamps in a primitive uncivilized and violent environment
    That's not true, Slavic settlement discovered recently in Pripyat Marshes was quite advanced:

    https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...red-in-Polesie

    They even found a Roman coin, as well as evidence of producing golden and metal items.

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    Also the environment there is not violent, it looks very peaceful and charming:




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    Quote Originally Posted by Peterski View Post
    That's not true, Slavic settlement discovered recently in Pripyat Marshes was quite advanced:

    https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...red-in-Polesie

    They even found a Roman coin, as well as evidence of producing golden and metal items.

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    Also the environment there is not violent, it looks very peaceful and charming:
    Some travellers most probably brought that Roman coin from the nearest civilized region (Helvetia?) back then.
    Where you have no state, you had violent environment, I wasnt talking about nature but the social construct. People crapping and peeing out in the open, murders, stealing, rape etc.
    The first Slavic state in history appeared as late as 8th century AD. That is just too late.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Böri View Post
    Where you have no state, you had violent environment
    That's not true for example there is no violence among the Bushmen:


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    Quote Originally Posted by Peterski View Post
    That's not true for example there is no violence among the Bushmen:
    We know from historical sources that cannibalism (eating human flesh) was practiced until 11th century AD in many parts of eastern Europe...

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    I have nothing against Czechia. Beautiful place, beautiful people. Good beer. One of my favorite members here is a Czech (Mikula).

    But that frisky girl called Magnolia is a different case. She needs to 'blow' off some steam.

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    It seems that Bori is the Turkish ЛыSSый

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    Quote Originally Posted by Böri View Post
    Just as Paris is the capital of 'covered' fashion, Prague is capital of nude fashion obviously.



    Slavs are more leaning to nudity than other people for good reason, until 7th century AD they were living naked in forests and swamps in a primitive uncivilized and violent environment. After the downfall of Christianity in their socieities, they reenact their ancestral traditions. That's in their genes.
    Czechs are not Slavs, they are Mongols.

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