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    Quote Originally Posted by Moje ime View Post
    Pali!
    Сестро Српкињо зашто сте озлојеђени данас?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pribislav View Post
    Little Jew cries with crocodile tears on destiny of Bosnian muslims... kme, kme, kme...

    If he is lover of Muslims why he does not cry for destiny of Palestinian civilians which suffer under the zionist regime of Israel.
    Why should I care for Palestinians? They sold their land, cooperated with the English against the Ottomans and in the end lost it all. Even Muslims should look at them as an example of what not to do.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Gold-Shekel View Post
    Why should I care for Palestinians? They sold their land, cooperated with the English against the Ottomans and in the end lost it all. Even Muslims should look at them as an example of what not to do.
    That is true.

    We protected Palestine and Arabia, Egypt, Tunis, Syria etc.. then they sold themselves to English and now they cry when English backed Israel is terrorizing them and are asking us to cry with them, sorry but no.

    Every innocent death there goes into the arms of Arabs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bosniensis View Post
    What is the future of Serbia?

    Serbia is one of the poorest countries after Macedonia, even Bosnia has bigger salaries than Serbia.

    What do you think? Can that be repaired?
    It's Northern Macedonia, Macedonia is a Greek province.

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    Serbia should declare Sokolovic a national hero. They must erect his statue somewhere in Belgrade.
    He saved the Serbian identity and the Serbian church built by St Sava.

    Were it not for Sokolovic restoring the Serb church by selecting his brother Makarios as head patriarch, the Ottomans had already implemented a plan to divide Serbs into two.

    Serbs who would pay the Jizya and continuing to be Orthodox were given to Greeks.
    They were meant to become Greeks.
    And those Serbs attracted by career opportunities, paying lesser taxes, becoming state bureaucrats were professing Muslim faith and turning Bosniaks (I don't deny some really might have believed in Islam).

    Sokolovic destroyed this anti-Serb policy. Serbs should venerate him.

    That would strengthen Serbia and the Serbian identity would embrace Muslim Serbs as result.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Böri View Post
    Serbia should declare Sokolovic a national hero. They must erect his statue somewhere in Belgrade.
    He saved the Serbian identity and the Serbian church built by St Sava.

    That would strengthen Serbia and the Serbian identity would embrace Muslim Serbs as result.
    Recently statues of Makarije and Mehmet paša Sokolović broughted to Andrićgrad (Višegrad). In Serbian forum was a discussion at 63 pages about that. This guy JankoTheGreat is probably Bosniensis https://forum.krstarica.com/showthre...drićgrad?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrićgrad

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pribislav View Post
    Recently statues of Makarije and Mehmet paša Sokolović broughted to Andrićgrad (Višegrad). In Serbian forum was a discussion at 63 pages about that. This guy JankoTheGreat is probably Bosniensis https://forum.krstarica.com/showthre...drićgrad?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrićgrad
    Wooooooooow. So, Bosniensis plays the good Muslim Ottoman guy here on TA but on the other hand, in Serbian forums sharing proudly that.
    He plays the two sides... That hypocrite!

    Photos must be shared man. That news is jewel.
    So in Visegrad which is Sokolovic home town, which is Bosnia's Serb region where Orthodox Serbs live and being on the Serbian border, the Serbs erected the statue of Sokollu Mehmet pasha and his own brother Makarios who Mehmet appointed to restore the holy Serbian Orthodox Church of Saint Sava...





    My naive Ottomanist Turks must see this. They still don't know what the Ottoman civilization was about.
    This will be spread in Turkish forums.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pribislav View Post
    Recently statues of Makarije and Mehmet paša Sokolović broughted to Andrićgrad (Višegrad). In Serbian forum was a discussion at 63 pages about that. This guy JankoTheGreat is probably Bosniensis https://forum.krstarica.com/showthre...drićgrad?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrićgrad
    I don't participate in Krstarica forum... why invent things?

    If Mehmed Pasa Sokolovic was alive today, Serbs would proclaim him an national enemy, also he knew what we know today he would never call himself Serb as well.

    Modern Serbian identity is built upon a hatred against muslims.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bosniensis View Post
    I don't participate in Krstarica forum... why invent things?

    If Mehmed Pasa Sokolovic was alive today, Serbs would proclaim him an national enemy, also he knew what we know today he would never call himself Serb as well.

    Modern Serbian identity is built upon a hatred against muslims.
    That guy is Bosnian muslim and he have similar attitudes like you.

    Most of Serbs have positive opinion about Mehmed paša Sokolović.
    Most of Bosniaks have a problem with him. Because he was born in Serbian Orthodox family in Bosnia, he restored Pećka Patrijaršija (Serbian Orthodox Church), and his cousin Makarije Sokolović became Serbian Partiarch https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Makarije_Sokolović
    Existence of Mehmed paša Sokolović deny a myth about bogomils.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pribislav View Post
    That guy is Bosnian muslim and he have similar attitudes like you.

    Most of Serbs have positive opinion about Mehmed paša Sokolović.
    Most of Bosniaks have a problem with him, because ha was born in serbian orthodox family, he restored Pećka patrijaršija (Serbian Orthodox Churc), and his cousin Makarije Sokolović became Serbian Partiarch https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Makarije_Sokolović
    Existence of Mehmed paša Sokolović deny myth about bogomils.
    Why?

    Most of Serbs have negative opinion of me for example. Why would they have positive opinion of Mehmed Paša Sokolović?

    He did restored Pećka Patriaršija, but he fought and murdered many Orthodox people in Wars, he was muslim after all not orthodox.

    If Orthodoxes actually liked people like Mehmed Paša Sokolovic, 1850 - 1995 massacres would not occur.

    Serbs keep saying: Serbs were never muslims and deny Serbian Islamic heritage.

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