Are Balkanites closer to Central Europeans or to Southern Europeans?

[Lavrentis]

Folks, even northern Greece is not proper southern Europe (like Sicily, Crete etc).

At least going by traditions. They’re very similar to Bulgarians and Slavic Macedonians.

[Vojnik]

As people have already suggested, it depends which Balkanite you are talking about. Macedonians for example are closer to modern Greeks. Heck, many of us even originate, or at least have some ancestry from today's northern greece.

Also you can in no way say southern Serbs, Montenegrins, Bulgarians and Albanians are closer to central Europeans then they are to southern Europeans.

[Vojnik]

Folks, even northern Greece is not proper southern Europe (like Sicily, Crete etc).

At least going by traditions. They’re very similar to Bulgarians and Slavic Macedonians.

Even if that's so, we are still closer to Cretans then to central Europeans.

[Lavrentis]

As people have already suggested, it depends which Balkanite you are talking about. Macedonians for example are closer to modern Greeks. Heck, many of us even originate, or at least have some ancestry from today's northern greece.

Also you can in no way say southern Serbs, Montenegrins, Bulgarians and Albanians are closer to central Europeans then they are to southern Europeans.

Even if that's so, we are still closer to Cretans then to central Europeans.

You are very similar to northern Greeks. But genetics will help us determine whether you are closer to Cretans than to Central Euros.

The Slavic input in Slavic Macedonians will probably lean you towards Central Euros. But this is just speculation from my side.

[Lauχum]

Very inaccurate. Half of today's Serbia has ancestors from Bosnia in last couple of centuries. Only Serbs with ancestors ONLY from Macedonia or southern Serbia are closer to south.

Culturally northern Serbia is closer to Central Europe, southern Serbia is culturally closer to Bulgaria.

I'm going off the formal samples. Perhaps Vojvodina is different, and I'm not sure who the "Bosnian" samples are but I assume they tested ethnic Bosniaks.

[Methuselah]

Balkanites ARE Southern Europeans.

Communism created artificial culture of the former Eastern Block countries, thats why it makes it hard for others to put Balkanites somewhere exactly. Currently Balkan countries are still heavily affected from communism thats why we might have more in common with Hungary for example, but Balkanites are Southern Europeans to the core.

Indeed. Not only is Greece Southern European, but close to West Asia already. But i don't think you have something in common with Hungary only due to Communist past. Hungary is just geographically pretty close to some Balkan countries.

[Vojnik]

You are very similar to northern Greeks. But genetics will help us determine whether you are closer to Cretans than to Central Euros.

The Slavic input in Slavic Macedonians will probably lean you towards Central Euros. But this is just speculation from my side.

So then are you ok with saying Northern Greeks are closer to Central Europeans?

[Tauromachos]

Albanians definetly Southern Europe.

East Balkan between Southern and Eastern Europe.

The rest either is in between Central,Eastern and South Europe somewhere

[Kaspias]

South.

[Lavrentis]

Indeed. Greece is not only Southern European, but close to West Asia already.

Close by which definition?

Anatolian Greeks (Greeks from Turkey) make around 30% of Greece’s population. They are similar to Turks, Armenians etc. But other Greeks are not close to West Asia.

For example we Cretans are close only to Sephardic Jews. That’s the only Middle Eastern population that we cluster with. And Sephardic Jews are significantly southern European.