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    Default Peloponnesian Greek GEDMatch results -- they are not like south Italians and Aegean islands

    Sorry to cybernautic but they're not... you can save all of your "Campanians are like a mixture of Peloponnesians and Central Europeans" nonsense because every one of these people plots NORTH of Aegean islanders, South Italians, and even Abruzzese.


    #1:
    # Population Percent
    1 East_Med 22.39
    2 Atlantic 18.57
    3 West_Med 16.66
    4 West_Asian 15.93
    5 Baltic 12.63
    6 Eastern_Euro 7.64
    7 North_Sea 3.62
    8 Red_Sea 1.84
    9 Oceanian 0.48
    10 Northeast_African 0.24

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Greek 6.08
    2 Central_Greek 10.62
    3 Italian_Abruzzo 10.86
    4 Bulgarian 11.23
    5 Greek_Thessaly 11.69
    6 West_Sicilian 11.75
    7 East_Sicilian 11.81
    8 South_Italian 12.54

    9 Ashkenazi 12.87
    10 Tuscan 13.15
    11 Romanian 14.35
    12 Sephardic_Jewish 16.8
    13 North_Italian 17.21
    14 Italian_Jewish 17.35
    15 Algerian_Jewish 17.67
    16 Serbian 18.12
    17 Tunisian_Jewish 20.55
    18 Turkish 21.08
    19 Cyprian 21.57
    20 Moldavian 22.46

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 93.6% Greek + 6.4% North_Ossetian @ 5.56
    2 93.4% Greek + 6.6% Adygei @ 5.59
    3 93.2% Greek + 6.8% Kabardin @ 5.6
    4 93.4% Greek + 6.6% Balkar @ 5.6
    5 94.6% Greek + 5.4% Abhkasian @ 5.62
    6 94.5% Greek + 5.5% Georgian @ 5.68
    7 94.4% Greek + 5.6% Ossetian @ 5.7
    8 94.4% Greek + 5.6% Chechen @ 5.71
    9 94.3% Greek + 5.7% Kumyk @ 5.81
    10 95.3% Greek + 4.7% Lezgin @ 5.85
    11 95.5% Greek + 4.5% Nogay @ 5.91
    12 93.6% Greek + 6.4% Turkish @ 5.92
    13 95.5% Greek + 4.5% Kurdish @ 5.93
    14 95.4% Greek + 4.6% Azeri @ 5.96
    15 96.9% Greek + 3.1% Tabassaran @ 5.97
    16 96.6% Greek + 3.4% Iranian @ 5.99
    17 96.7% Greek + 3.3% Georgian_Jewish @ 6
    18 97.7% Greek + 2.3% Balochi @ 6
    19 96.8% Greek + 3.2% Armenian @ 6
    20 97.8% Greek + 2.2% Brahui @ 6.01

    #2:
    # Population Percent
    1 East_Med 21.14
    2 Atlantic 18.55
    3 West_Med 13.37
    4 West_Asian 13.08
    5 North_Sea 10.75
    6 Baltic 9.54
    7 Red_Sea 6.32
    8 Eastern_Euro 5.83
    9 Southeast_Asian 1.16
    10 Oceanian 0.26

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Italian_Abruzzo 6.42
    2 Greek 6.54
    3 Tuscan 8.3
    4 Greek_Thessaly 8.35
    5 West_Sicilian 8.42
    6 Central_Greek 8.61
    7 East_Sicilian 9
    8 Ashkenazi 9.1

    9 Bulgarian 9.39
    10 Romanian 11.05
    11 South_Italian 11.43
    12 North_Italian 12.99
    13 Serbian 14
    14 Sephardic_Jewish 15.06
    15 Italian_Jewish 15.13
    16 Algerian_Jewish 16.55
    17 Spanish_Extremadura 19.11
    18 Tunisian_Jewish 19.31
    19 Spanish_Murcia 19.51
    20 Portuguese 19.53

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 84.1% Italian_Abruzzo + 15.9% Russian_Smolensk @ 2.97
    2 85.2% Italian_Abruzzo + 14.8% Estonian_Polish @ 2.98
    3 85.2% Italian_Abruzzo + 14.8% Belorussian @ 3.02
    4 86.6% Italian_Abruzzo + 13.4% Lithuanian @ 3.16
    5 84.5% Italian_Abruzzo + 15.5% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 3.17
    6 84.8% Italian_Abruzzo + 15.2% Southwest_Russian @ 3.18
    7 84.6% Italian_Abruzzo + 15.4% Polish @ 3.32

    8 57.3% Sephardic_Jewish + 42.7% Austrian @ 3.33
    9 79.6% Italian_Abruzzo + 20.4% Croatian @ 3.45
    10 85.9% Italian_Abruzzo + 14.1% La_Brana-1 @ 3.48
    11 83.8% Italian_Abruzzo + 16.2% South_Polish @ 3.48
    12 86.1% Italian_Abruzzo + 13.9% Kargopol_Russian @ 3.52
    13 86.8% Italian_Abruzzo + 13.2% Erzya @ 3.62
    14 78.8% Italian_Abruzzo + 21.2% Austrian @ 3.63
    15 62.1% Italian_Abruzzo + 37.9% Bulgarian @ 3.64
    16 86.9% Italian_Abruzzo + 13.1% Estonian @ 3.65
    17 84% Italian_Abruzzo + 16% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 3.69
    18 66.5% Italian_Abruzzo + 33.5% Romanian @ 3.72
    19 84.5% Italian_Abruzzo + 15.5% Ukrainian @ 3.73
    20 58.4% Romanian + 41.6% Sephardic_Jewish @ 3.78

    #3:
    # Population Percent
    1 East_Med 21.59
    2 West_Med 17.5
    3 West_Asian 17.04
    4 Atlantic 13.78
    5 North_Sea 13.48
    6 Baltic 9
    7 Eastern_Euro 4
    8 Red_Sea 3.35
    9 Oceanian 0.26

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Greek_Thessaly 5.48
    2 Central_Greek 6.04
    3 Italian_Abruzzo 6.04
    4 Greek 6.81
    5 East_Sicilian 7.53
    6 Tuscan 8.82

    7 Ashkenazi 9.05
    8 South_Italian 9.48
    9 West_Sicilian 9.76
    10 Bulgarian 10.88
    11 Romanian 12.53
    12 North_Italian 13.92
    13 Italian_Jewish 14.68
    14 Sephardic_Jewish 15.64
    15 Serbian 16.08
    16 Algerian_Jewish 16.52
    17 Tunisian_Jewish 19.84
    18 Turkish 19.92
    19 Libyan_Jewish 20.77
    20 Cyprian 20.77

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 84.2% Central_Greek + 15.8% East_German @ 3.53
    2 90.6% Greek_Thessaly + 9.4% Abhkasian @ 3.67
    3 89.7% Greek_Thessaly + 10.3% Georgian @ 3.67
    4 71.6% Central_Greek + 28.4% Romanian @ 3.73
    5 84.4% Central_Greek + 15.6% West_German @ 3.75

    6 89.6% Greek_Thessaly + 10.4% Ossetian @ 3.77
    7 82.9% Central_Greek + 17.1% Hungarian @ 3.78
    8 87.9% Central_Greek + 12.1% Swedish @ 3.78
    9 86.5% Central_Greek + 13.5% North_German @ 3.79
    10 88% Central_Greek + 12% Norwegian @ 3.8
    11 87.5% Central_Greek + 12.5% North_Dutch @ 3.82
    12 86.9% Central_Greek + 13.1% Southwest_English @ 3.83
    13 84.8% Central_Greek + 15.2% South_Dutch @ 3.84
    14 88.5% Central_Greek + 11.5% West_Norwegian @ 3.84
    15 54.4% Greek_Thessaly + 45.6% Italian_Abruzzo @ 3.86
    16 88.3% Central_Greek + 11.7% Orcadian @ 3.92
    17 90.1% Greek_Thessaly + 9.9% North_Ossetian @ 3.92
    18 82.1% Central_Greek + 17.9% Moldavian @ 3.92
    19 87.7% Central_Greek + 12.3% Danish @ 3.93
    20 88.3% Central_Greek + 11.7% North_Swedish @ 3.96

    #4:
    # Population Percent
    1 East_Med 24.29
    2 North_Sea 16.78
    3 West_Med 16.53
    4 West_Asian 12.74
    5 Atlantic 11.81
    6 Baltic 7.97
    7 Eastern_Euro 4.08
    8 Red_Sea 3.85
    9 Oceanian 0.64
    10 Siberian 0.57
    11 South_Asian 0.47
    12 Northeast_African 0.28

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Greek_Thessaly 4.64
    2 Central_Greek 7.01
    3 Italian_Abruzzo 7.16
    4 East_Sicilian 7.73
    5 Ashkenazi 7.95
    6 Greek 8.65
    7 Tuscan 9.03
    8 West_Sicilian 9.41
    9 South_Italian 9.92
    10 Bulgarian 12.37
    11 Italian_Jewish 13.24
    12 Romanian 13.42
    13 North_Italian 14.12
    14 Sephardic_Jewish 15.08
    15 Algerian_Jewish 15.38
    16 Serbian 16.04
    17 Libyan_Jewish 18.49
    18 Tunisian_Jewish 18.89
    19 Portuguese 20.55
    20 Cyprian 20.66

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 80.1% Central_Greek + 19.9% West_German @ 3.55
    2 85.2% Central_Greek + 14.8% West_Norwegian @ 3.55
    3 54.5% Cyprian + 45.5% West_German @ 3.61
    4 84.7% Central_Greek + 15.3% Norwegian @ 3.64
    5 84.7% Central_Greek + 15.3% Swedish @ 3.65
    6 85% Central_Greek + 15% North_Swedish @ 3.83
    7 70.4% Greek_Thessaly + 29.6% Italian_Abruzzo @ 3.89
    8 78.6% South_Italian + 21.4% North_Swedish @ 4.01
    9 84.5% Greek_Thessaly + 15.5% Italian_Jewish @ 4.02
    10 78.5% South_Italian + 21.5% Swedish @ 4.1
    11 89.3% Greek_Thessaly + 10.7% Libyan_Jewish @ 4.11
    12 84.9% Central_Greek + 15.1% North_Dutch @ 4.11
    13 85.6% Central_Greek + 14.4% Orcadian @ 4.17
    14 78.6% South_Italian + 21.4% Norwegian @ 4.19
    15 73.9% Greek_Thessaly + 26.1% Central_Greek @ 4.2
    16 93.4% Greek_Thessaly + 6.6% Lebanese_Druze @ 4.2
    17 76.7% Greek_Thessaly + 23.3% East_Sicilian @ 4.2
    18 82.4% Greek_Thessaly + 17.6% South_Italian @ 4.23
    19 85.1% Central_Greek + 14.9% Danish @ 4.24
    20 79% East_Sicilian + 21% West_German @ 4.24

    #5:
    # Population Percent
    1 East_Med 25.8
    2 West_Asian 14.59
    3 West_Med 13.47
    4 Baltic 13.04
    5 Atlantic 12.3
    6 North_Sea 11.36
    7 Red_Sea 4.46
    8 Eastern_Euro 3.11
    9 Northeast_African 1.41
    10 Oceanian 0.24
    11 Amerindian 0.12
    12 Southeast_Asian 0.08
    13 Siberian 0.01

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Greek_Thessaly 6.38
    2 Central_Greek 6.67
    3 Greek 6.8
    4 Ashkenazi 7.39
    5 East_Sicilian 7.45
    6 Italian_Abruzzo 8.35
    7 South_Italian 9.35
    8 West_Sicilian 10.52
    9 Bulgarian 11.13
    10 Tuscan 12.32
    11 Romanian 13.3
    12 Italian_Jewish 13.45
    13 Sephardic_Jewish 14.05
    14 Algerian_Jewish 14.94
    15 Tunisian_Jewish 17.2
    16 Serbian 17.2
    17 North_Italian 17.75
    18 Libyan_Jewish 18.32
    19 Cyprian 18.55
    20 Turkish 19.28

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 81.4% South_Italian + 18.6% Lithuanian @ 3.91
    2 70.9% Bulgarian + 29.1% Lebanese_Christian @ 3.92
    3 70% Bulgarian + 30% Samaritan @ 4.02
    4 58.9% Romanian + 41.1% Cyprian @ 4.1
    5 71.4% Bulgarian + 28.6% Lebanese_Druze @ 4.11
    6 56.5% Cyprian + 43.5% Hungarian @ 4.15
    7 63.7% Bulgarian + 36.3% Cyprian @ 4.23
    8 66.1% Bulgarian + 33.9% Lebanese_Muslim @ 4.24
    9 79.3% South_Italian + 20.7% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 4.25
    10 87.9% Central_Greek + 12.1% Lithuanian @ 4.25
    11 66.8% Romanian + 33.2% Lebanese_Christian @ 4.3
    12 79.7% South_Italian + 20.3% Southwest_Russian @ 4.33
    13 65.8% Romanian + 34.2% Samaritan @ 4.33
    14 80.5% South_Italian + 19.5% Belorussian @ 4.33
    15 77.7% South_Italian + 22.3% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 4.38
    16 81.7% South_Italian + 18.3% Estonian @ 4.46
    17 79.7% South_Italian + 20.3% Russian_Smolensk @ 4.51

    18 86.3% East_Sicilian + 13.7% Lithuanian @ 4.52
    19 87.5% Central_Greek + 12.5% Belorussian @ 4.53
    20 81.8% Greek_Thessaly + 18.2% Lebanese_Muslim @ 4.59

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    What I see in these, is they are about 20% shifted north compared to Aegean islands and southern Italians (not necessarily all NE European, as it can be modeled with Swedish also for one of these people), which is less than some other mainland regions.

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    This makes me curious to see what my dad's results would be like.

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    Quote Originally Posted by arkas View Post
    This makes me curious to see what my dad's results would be like.
    Probably similar to these, I would say.

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    #5 is south shifted compared to the rest. Is there anything unique/noteworthy about their location?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lauχum View Post
    #5 is south shifted compared to the rest. Is there anything unique/noteworthy about their location?
    Looks Maniote... but that's just a guess.
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    Interesting

    This shows how much unrelated we are with the spaghetti people

    Here some personal results for the sake of our Northmen ancestors

    1 73.4% Central_Greek + 26.6% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2.45
    2 74.3% Central_Greek + 25.7% Ukrainian @ 2.46
    3 64.5% Central_Greek + 35.5% Moldavian @ 2.48
    4 79.7% Central_Greek + 20.3% Lithuanian @ 2.48
    5 77.1% Central_Greek + 22.9% Russian_Smolensk @ 2.49
    6 77.4% Central_Greek + 22.6% Estonian_Polish @ 2.52
    7 68.1% Central_Greek + 31.9% Croatian @ 2.58
    8 76.3% Central_Greek + 23.7% Polish @ 2.63

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freeroostah View Post
    Interesting

    This shows how much unrelated we are with the spaghetti people

    Here some personal results for the sake of our Northmen ancestors

    1 73.4% Central_Greek + 26.6% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2.45
    2 74.3% Central_Greek + 25.7% Ukrainian @ 2.46
    3 64.5% Central_Greek + 35.5% Moldavian @ 2.48
    4 79.7% Central_Greek + 20.3% Lithuanian @ 2.48
    5 77.1% Central_Greek + 22.9% Russian_Smolensk @ 2.49
    6 77.4% Central_Greek + 22.6% Estonian_Polish @ 2.52
    7 68.1% Central_Greek + 31.9% Croatian @ 2.58
    8 76.3% Central_Greek + 23.7% Polish @ 2.63
    This is all bullshit

    By the way he claims that the results he posts are not related to Aegean Greeks and South Italians what an idiot when their top
    10 populations are consist of Central Greek,Abruzzo and Jewish even except Bulgarian in betweent those.


    Central Greek by the way includes Aegean Islands"Cyclades" to let everyone here know.
    First result for example revisited looked on from a different angle
    1 Greek 6.08
    2 Central_Greek 10.62
    3 Italian_Abruzzo 10.86

    4 Bulgarian 11.23
    5 Greek_Thessaly 11.69
    6 West_Sicilian 11.75
    7 East_Sicilian 11.81
    8 South_Italian 12.54

    9 Ashkenazi 12.87

    10 Tuscan 13.15
    11 Romanian 14.35
    12 Sephardic_Jewish 16.8
    13 North_Italian 17.21
    14 Italian_Jewish 17.35
    15 Algerian_Jewish 17.67
    16 Serbian 18.12
    17 Tunisian_Jewish 20.55
    18 Turkish 21.08
    19 Cyprian 21.57

    20 Moldavian 22.46
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lauχum View Post
    #5 is south shifted compared to the rest. Is there anything unique/noteworthy about their location?
    Maniot, yes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cybernautic View Post
    This is all bullshit

    By the way he claims that the results he posts are not related to Aegean Greeks and South Italians what an idiot when their top
    10 populations are consist of Central Greek,Abruzzo and Jewish even except Bulgarian in betweent those.


    Central Greek by the way includes Aegean Islands"Cyclades" to let everyone here know.
    First result for example revisited looked on from a different angle
    1 Greek 6.08
    2 Central_Greek 10.62
    3 Italian_Abruzzo 10.86

    4 Bulgarian 11.23
    5 Greek_Thessaly 11.69
    6 West_Sicilian 11.75
    7 East_Sicilian 11.81
    8 South_Italian 12.54

    9 Ashkenazi 12.87

    10 Tuscan 13.15
    11 Romanian 14.35
    12 Sephardic_Jewish 16.8
    13 North_Italian 17.21
    14 Italian_Jewish 17.35
    15 Algerian_Jewish 17.67
    16 Serbian 18.12
    17 Tunisian_Jewish 20.55
    18 Turkish 21.08
    19 Cyprian 21.57

    20 Moldavian 22.46

    Of course they're related to Italians and Aegean islanders but they are different too. Related doesn't mean identical!

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