Left-wing versus right-wing pan-Europeanism: do you identify with either?

[Tooting Carmen]

Put simply, left-wing pan-Europeanism is more political. The belief is that the EU and related institutions have killed off many of the often violent nationalisms of the past, and in their place Europe's peoples and countries have pooled their sovereignty for the greater good. This is a POV I share to a certain extent, though imo some left-wingers do tend to over-romanticise the EU.

In the meantime, right-wing pan-Europeanism is more racial and cultural. The belief is that Europeans mostly look very similar to each other, have similar cultures and many if not most Europeans can pass in each others' countries, and that the darker/more exotic/more distinctive types prevalent in some countries are usually Gypsies/Jews/Turks/immigrants etc. etc. This type of pan-Europeanism is mostly bollocks to me.

[Insuperable]

You cooked these definitions by yourself?

[Tooting Carmen]

You cooked these definitions by yourself?

To some extent, though most of it is based on empirical observation.

[Papa]

The first one seems legit, but the next step will be the Empire of Earth, better deal with it already.

The second one is leading to never ending divisions, just pay a visit to the Genetics Forum.

[Seaghan]

Economically speaking, I'm a centrist. Protectionism is the main thing I care about when it comes to that. Socially, I'm a radical traditionalist. I'm not sure if you'd consider this right wing or not.

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[Visage pâle]

Put simply, left-wing pan-Europeanism is more political. The belief is that the EU and related institutions have killed off many of the often violent nationalisms of the past, and in their place Europe's peoples and countries have pooled their sovereignty for the greater good. This is a POV I share to a certain extent, though imo some left-wingers do tend to over-romanticise the EU.

In the meantime, right-wing pan-Europeanism is more racial and cultural. The belief is that Europeans mostly look very similar to each other, have similar cultures and many if not most Europeans can pass in each others' countries, and that the darker/more exotic/more distinctive types prevalent in some countries are usually Gypsies/Jews/Turks/immigrants etc. etc. This type of pan-Europeanism is mostly bollocks to me.

Neither, for a long time i searched an european identity but i didn't found it. I consider myself as a patriot white man of french nationality with french and spanish ancestors. That's enough for me.
Europe as nation is a myth, we aren't in same situation than USA with all their states. Each european nation, has strong identity with different culture and history.

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