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    Off White, they usually look middle eastern
    And have noticeable middle eastern admixture(+10%)
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    Mi mapa de Ancestros hace 4500 años atras


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    es el asiatico oriental debido a un bisabuelo chino

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dimitri159 View Post
    “Irish chimps” are not White as your ethnic percentage description says 50% Celtic.


    https://www.nature.com/articles/ncomms10408

    Target: Irish
    Distance: 0.8753% / 0.00875280
    78.0 Celtic
    22.0 Anglo-Saxon

    Target: English
    Distance: 0.6890% / 0.00689004
    56.6 Celtic
    43.4 Anglo-Saxon

    Target: Jamesbond_scaled
    Distance: 1.3682% / 0.01368180
    50.8 Celtic
    49.2 Anglo-Saxon

    https://www.exploreyourdna.com/calcu...calculator.htm

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    Quote Originally Posted by axel.aleman View Post
    Off White, they usually look middle eastern
    And have noticeable middle eastern admixture(+10%)
    A number can look Middle Eastern-influenced, but few look wholesale Arabid or Iranid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tooting Carmen View Post
    A number can look Middle Eastern-influenced, but few look wholesale Arabid or Iranid.
    Some look Jewish
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    Quote Originally Posted by axel.aleman View Post
    Some look Jewish
    You’re right. But (Ashkenazi/Sephardi) Jews do not look out-right Middle Eastern fully either. Both ethnicities as well as Greeks could easily pass as both generally European or generally Middle Eastern in many cases. Depends on the individual but most have an in-between look.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sikeliot View Post
    When discussing genetics and phenotype, it shouldn't play a part. However, the only reason we consider Sicilians or Cypriots "white" but Levantines and Iranians "people of color" (who look and are genetically far closer to them than are the Germans, Irish, French, or even Spanish) is because of religious and cultural differences. So in a way, where we draw the line is in fact heavily influenced by culture.
    In my opinion it is above all for a cultural question, admitting that we southern Europeans are not white but Mediterranean Europeans, therefore as the ancient Greek philosophers said neither dark like the Arabs nor white like the Germans would be like admitting that the same ancient Greeks and ancient Romans they were more similar to the Lebanese than to the Swedes and the same cultural foundations from which Europe started would be completely devastated, but the reality is this, it is no coincidence that many Slavs and many Germans try to appropriate the Greek and Roman heritage, but the ancient Greeks and Romans in modern Europe would phenotypically plot much more in southern Italy and Greece and partly also in Iberia than in the rest of Europe
    lying-greek-man-lying-man-drinking-ancient-greek-painting-archaeological-museum-paestum-italy-10.jpg
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