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    Quote Originally Posted by Stearsolina View Post
    Majority of modern Russian federation was never part of Rus.

    In my opinion, if some people consider themself separate nation, that should be respected.
    Ethnic groups are created and die all the time. In the end, we all branched from proto Slavs long time ago, and became separate tribes.

    Bosniaks are genetically almost identical to Croats, but They are not one of us, because They have completely different Identity and historical experience. Genes mean little, personal feeling is much more Important.
    Land has nothing to do with ethnicity

    And Russians Belarrusians and Ukranians share all the same history

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    https://youtu.be/WpwJVinvE3k
    60 минут. ПОРОШЕНКО ДЕРЖИТ КУРС НА ЗАПАД: украинцы выбирают другое направление.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slavic Italian View Post
    What are some of the differences?
    In Russian there is no southern influence, there is the influence of the Northern Baltic. Ancient Ukrainians who lived in Kiev also had no southern influence. The greater part of the Kiev Ukrainians moved to Russia and became Russian. The other part remained in Kiev and was assimilated by South-Western Slavic tribes. Which on phenotype were southern Europeans are close with Romanians. Therefore, today Eastern Ukrainians are an intermediate variant between Russian and South-Western Slavs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stearsolina View Post
    Majority of modern Russian federation was never part of Rus.

    In my opinion, if some people consider themself separate nation, that should be respected.
    Ethnic groups are created and die all the time. In the end, we all branched from proto Slavs long time ago, and became separate tribes.

    Bosniaks are genetically almost identical to Croats, but They are not one of us, because They have completely different Identity and historical experience. Genes mean little, personal feeling is much more Important.
    In Russia there is ancestral land where the Russian people live, and there is a second saline land. The territory of Russia was Rus the first than Ukraine. Then Ukraine disappeared, and the Russians moved to conquer Siberia and America. Did you know the Russians made it to California?
    Here is a map of how Rus began.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stearsolina View Post
    No wonder Ukrainians can't stand Poles if average one is as chauvinist as you.
    Ukrainians cannot even stand themselves - which is precisely why this artificial country is doomed to collapse.

    There are now 2-3 million Ukrainian immigrants in Poland. Are they coming to us because they can't stand us?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guede View Post
    https://youtu.be/WpwJVinvE3k
    60 минут. ПОРОШЕНКО ДЕРЖИТ КУРС НА ЗАПАД: украинцы выбирают другое направление.
    Какое другое направление? Это мы, а затем Германия и другие... И так на запад в Португалию

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pollena View Post
    Какое другое направление? Это мы, а затем Германия и другие... И так на запад в Португалию
    Пётр к Западу, Украинцы к Югу, И2а1 очень сильное здесь

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peterski View Post
    Ukrainians cannot even stand themselves - which is precisely why this artificial country is doomed to collapse.

    There are now 2-3 million Ukrainian immigrants in Poland. Are they coming to us because they can't stand us?
    They come there because Ukraine Is Poor as Africa and because Poles are very close to Ukrainians, especially linguistically and historically, and because Poland has ten time better standard.

    Do you think Middle easterners and Africans migrate to Europe because They love it ?

    Btw you claim Poles don't like Germans. Why are there Many Poles in Germany ?
    Last edited by Jana; 08-25-2018 at 01:39 PM.

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