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    Default @Silver Lining - here is the real reason why Germany and Poland became hostile in 1939:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peterski View Post
    Poland and Germany were friendly between 1934 and 1938. Relations deteriorated in 1939.
    Yes, because Poles became hostile. Hitler wanted an alliance.
    Here is the reason why Poland could not join the Anti-Comintern Pact and could not be Germany's ally.

    Timothy Snyder wrote about it - some excerpts from one of reviews of Snyder's book "Black Earth":

    https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/b...imothy-snyder/

    "(...) One of the most unusual features of Timothy Snyder’s Black Earth, writes Christopher R. Browning in his New York Review of Books review, is the many pages Snyder devotes to Poland, Zionism, and Palestine. At the center of this story is the short-lived alliance between the Polish government and the Zionist Revisionist Movement during the 1930s, explored in the book’s first four chapters (the third titled “The Promise of Palestine”) and revisited in the conclusion. After Marshal Józef Piłsudski’s death, the ruling circles in Poland advocated solving the country’s so-called Jewish problem through the emigration of a large part of the Jewish population (estimated at about 3 million on the eve of the war). For that purpose, Snyder recounts, the Polish government lent public support to Revisionist Zionist leaders and paramilitary groups and even financed and trained them. Their hope was that these Jews would wage a campaign of resistance and terror against the British mandatory authorities in Palestine and establish a Jewish state open to large-scale Jewish emigration.

    Why is the history of Revisionist Zionism and their Polish supporters so central to a book that claims we have misunderstood the Holocaust and purports to offer a new explanation for it? The Polish-Zionist Revisionist alliance is in fact so central to Snyder’s account that the four main Zionist Revisionist protagonists in his story—Vladimir Jabotinsky, Avraham Stern, Yitzhak Shamir, and Menachem Begin—are mentioned in the book more often than Stalin, Roosevelt, and Churchill combined.

    One place to start is by situating Snyder’s discussion of Revisionist Zionism within its context in the book, namely an alliance that never materialized between Germany and Poland. As Snyder tells us, Adolf Hitler had initially hoped to draw Poland into a joint war of aggression against the Soviet Union. After some negotiations, Polish leaders rejected Hitler’s overtures. They determined that maintaining the status quo in Europe would benefit Poland more than war and feared that they would become a German satellite state following the Soviet Union’s defeat. Snyder, however, proposes that Hitler’s dream of a Polish-German alliance failed not merely because of Poland’s political calculations but ultimately because of ideological divisions.

    The failure to reach an agreement and the ensuing German invasion of Poland, he writes, “resulted from deep differences on the Jewish and Soviet questions that were shrouded for years by Polish diplomacy.” Snyder sums up these differences two pages later: 'The covert essence of German foreign policy in the late 1930s was the ambition to build a vast racial empire in eastern Europe; the covert essence of Polish foreign policy was to create a State of Israel in Palestine from the territories granted by the League of Nations mandate to the British Empire.' (...)"

    ^^^ Indeed, most of key Zionists who created Israel were citizens of Pre-War Poland. Jewish militias and paramilitary groups in Palestine were trained by Poland with financial support of the Polish government, and later Polish Jewish soldiers from the Polish Army of General Anders joined them (they were allowed to stay in Palestine, while the rest of his army moved to Italy and fought at Monte Cassino). Israel's Army was literally created from former soldiers of the Polish Army.

    To sum up:

    The essence of Nazi German foreign policy was totally INCOMPATIBLE with the essence of Polish foreign policy.

    And today, Poland and Zionists are becoming friends again, just like we used to be in the 1930s:

    https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...=1#post5365005

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    "Poland appoints ex-banker with Jewish roots as prime minister":

    https://www.timesofisrael.com/poland...rime-minister/

    "Yad Vashem gave Agata Duda, Poland’s first lady, documentation on her Jewish relatives":

    https://www.haaretz.com/opinion/.pre...lish-1.5490193

    PMs of Poland (Morawiecki) and Israel (Netanyahu) jointly condemn Anti-Polonism & Anti-Semitism:

    https://www.premier.gov.pl/en/news/n...of-poland.html

    Polish right-wing musician, KelThuz made a song celebrating 70 years of Israel's independece:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6tLOTPRUHQ



    Which country is more Jewish influences, Poland, Russia or Ukraine?
    Poland is the most Zionist-influenced for sure (remember that Polish government in the 1930s supported Zionists to the point that - according to Timothy Snyder - Israel is Poland's child, Poland created Israel by supporting Zionists financially and militarily).

    However, Zionists are a minority of Jews. Many Jews are extremely left-wing and oppose Zionism.

    When it comes to Judeo-Communist influence, we have none of it, while Ukraine and Russia do.

    Zionism - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zionism

    Versus:

    Judeo-Communism - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C5%BBydokomuna
    Judeo-Bolshevism - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_Bolshevism

    ^^^ Learn the difference, it can save your life!
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    Hitler was a psychopathic madman, and Stalin was no better.

    Roosevelt had a lot of blood on his hands too, and screwed over American farmers like my great-grandparents.

    Churchill was the only good Allied leader.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobby Martnen View Post
    Hitler was a psychopathic madman, and Stalin was no better.

    Roosevelt had a lot of blood on his hands too, and screwed over American farmers like my great-grandparents.

    Churchill was the only good Allied leader.
    None of them were good. Churchill was not reelected for a reason. Now they are trying to make him out to be a hero. He was just a alcoholic rich kid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peterski View Post
    And today, Poland and Zionists are becoming friends again, just like we used to be in the 1930s:
    LOL, just no, Jews like Poles even less than Germans, because Jews respect Germans and don't make much difference between German actions and Polish actions in the Holocaust. Zionist and nazis cooperated in the beginning, because Zionists and Nazis hated the ongoing assimilation of Jews into German society.



    "A Nazi goes to Palestine and tells about it"

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haavara_Agreement



    And don't worry, drugs and foreigners will flood Poland sooner or later. Poland has no friends. You fear the Russians, you detest the Germans and throw yourself against at the Anglo-Saxon world who never gave a shit about you (see 1939 and 1945), used you as puppets in their game.

    Overall, Peterski, I think you need mental health. It is not normal to downvote every post and spam me with messages and reputation comments.

    Since you called me "Hitler Boy", I will not even talk to you anymore.

    Get some medication and therapy.

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    "Hitler Boy" was Alfred Czech (born in 1932), not you. Again you have problems with understanding and processing written text.

    Quote Originally Posted by Silver Lining View Post
    Poland has no friends. You fear the Russians, you detest the Germans and throw yourself against at the Anglo-Saxon world who never gave a shit about you (see 1939 and 1945), used you as puppets in their game.
    Nationally conscious Poles, who follow Roman Dmowski's doctrine, do not fear the Russians - only the ones who believe in German propaganda do. We also do not detest the Germans. In your mind, the fact that I care only about Polish Raison D'état, means I detest the Germans. Nope, it just means that I do not care about Germany. You apparently can't understand how can someone not give a shit about your nation.

    Russia is not a threat to Poland, because they already got everything what they ever wanted from us.

    Do you realize that current eastern border of Poland is the same as Russian western border in 1795 (?):

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silver Lining View Post
    LOL, just no, Jews like Poles even less than Germans, because Jews respect Germans and don't make much difference between German actions and Polish actions in the Holocaust. Zionist and nazis cooperated in the beginning, because Zionists and Nazis hated the ongoing assimilation of Jews into German society.



    "A Nazi goes to Palestine and tells about it"

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haavara_Agreement



    And don't worry, drugs and foreigners will flood Poland sooner or later. Poland has no friends. You fear the Russians, you detest the Germans and throw yourself against at the Anglo-Saxon world who never gave a shit about you (see 1939 and 1945), used you as puppets in their game.

    Overall, Peterski, I think you need mental health. It is not normal to downvote every post and spam me with messages and reputation comments.

    Since you called me "Hitler Boy", I will not even talk to you anymore.

    Get some medication and therapy.
    Aren't the Zionist mostly Jews and western Euros?

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