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    Quote Originally Posted by Septentrion View Post
    The Germanic invasion of England from the Jutes, Angles, Saxons, Frisians, Danes, Norse did not really make a change in the eye color frequency of the lowland British population. If for example, we ranked England's regions from the least blue - eyed to the most blue - eyed.
    1) Southwestern England - This is also England 'most Celtic' region, especially the county of Cornwall.
    2) Eastern England - This is England 'most Germanic' region.
    3) Southeastern England
    4) Northeastern England
    5) Yorkshire
    6) Central England
    Pre-celt English are light

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    Quote Originally Posted by Septentrion View Post
    The Germanic invasion of England from the Jutes, Angles, Saxons, Frisians, Danes, Norse did not really make a change in the eye color frequency of the lowland British population. If for example, we ranked England's regions from the least blue - eyed to the most blue - eyed.
    1) Southwestern England - This is also England 'most Celtic' region, especially the county of Cornwall.
    2) Eastern England - This is England 'most Germanic' region.
    3) Southeastern England
    4) Northeastern England
    5) Yorkshire
    6) Central England
    Highest frequency of Blue eyes is in the North East where there is highest Scandinavian influence. Coon said the most light eyed are the East Coast fishermen who also have the most Scandinavian blood.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cristiano viejo View Post
    Fact is that among all these Finnish immigrants there are kids and young people too. There are entire families and every year it come more and more. They have their own schools, business etc ie maaaaaany of them are far of being retirees.
    Well whoever they are, obviously it is not good for Finnish economy. Statistically Finns take more flights and travel more than any other nation, which exception of maybe Norway being ahead in some travel stats, and obviously it takes huge toll on the economy. Actually, this year because covid, the xmas domestic sales broke all records, and gave big boost to economy, because you didn't have half a million Finns travelling abroad for hollireis and spending all the money they earned during the year on week in Timbuktuu.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Supercomputer View Post
    Highest frequency of Blue eyes is in the North East where there is highest Scandinavian influence. Coon said the most light eyed are the East Coast fishermen who also have the most Scandinavian blood.
    The North East isn't thought to have as much Germanic blood as most of England though, and less Scandinavian influence than Yorkshire and other parts of the Danelaw.

    Septentrion is right in saying that Anglo-Saxon and Scandinavian invasions aren't the only factor in British pigmentation. People seem to think that pre-Germanic Britons were uniform, despite the Romans even mentioning significant (though exaggerated) differences in appearance.
    Last edited by Creoda; 01-10-2021 at 09:26 AM.

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    A lot of Swedish elderly people retire in Spain or Portugal as well. I remember there was a discussion regarding whether they would be obliged to pay Swedish taxes. Not sure how that turned out.

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    I might do a survey of County Cricketers on a regional level soon to compare eye colour. Can also do one for footballers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Creoda View Post
    I might do a survey of County Cricketers on a regional level soon to compare eye colour. Can also do one for footballers.
    I'll also try at some point to count eye colour for Scotland and Wales, using all native international footballers since 1980.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Creoda View Post
    I'll also try at some point to count eye colour for Scotland and Wales, using all native international footballers since 1980.
    That would be interesting

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    Quote Originally Posted by Supercomputer View Post
    We have a different thing in mind when we speak about "green" eyes.



    These eyes some people call "green" while others call them "hazel"

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    I think "wider society" also calls dark green eyes green. Or often even clearly hazel eyes are called green, because the concept of hazel eyes is not that widely known.

    My scheme is that gray eyes means desaturated blue eyes. And light green eyes are distinct from blue-green/gray-green eyes. And there's a distinction between light green, medium green, and dark green eyes, all of which can either be less grayish (less desaturated) or more grayish (more desaturated). And medium green eyes are more "true green" than dark green eyes.

    The terms "blue-green" and "gray-green" are often used interchangably, so I came up with the term "blue-gray-green" to refer to various shades of eyes that are intermediate between blue-to-gray eyes and green eyes. They include more saturated shades (which might be called blue-green) and more desaturated shades (which might be called gray-green). It would be possible to split blue-gray-green eyes into further subgroups based on hue (more blueish or more greenish), based on saturation (saturated/bright, medium, or desaturated/gray), or based on the amount of yellow or brown central heterochromia.

    Among blue-to-gray eyes, very saturated or bright blue eyes are rare, and very desaturated or gray eyes are also rare. Therefore most blue-to-gray eyes might be considered blue-gray rather than bright blue or gray. But it depends on where we set the arbitrary boundaries between blue-gray and blue eyes on one hand and blue-gray and gray eyes on the other hand.

    I tried selecting images of players in Swedish soccer leagues to demonstrate my scheme (https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...soccer-leagues). I classified the players based on a single photo, so for example some of the players I classified as dark green would probably look hazel in other photos and vice versa.


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    To be fair, I see quite a few brown eyed Anglo Australians.

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