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    Quote Originally Posted by Profileid View Post
    results for that should be in very soon


    I have a lot of southern cousins, who get some SSA.
    Are these cousins on 23andme living further south? SSA appears to pop up in people from Virginia and South Carolina and I'd assume to a degree descendants of people whose origin are from these states. I don't include Louisiana since it has a different history than that of the rest of the south.

    An interesting fact is in the very early days of settlement in Virgina Black slaves were treated as indentured servants instead of as slaves and they intermarried with White indentured servants. I suspect the same happened in South Carolina and this is much of the basis for that little bit of SSA% in some southerners in that some of the descendants could pass as White and did so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Profileid View Post
    On average probably like .5% https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_...ispanic_Whites
    What to understand about this is that the vast majority of white southerners get no detectable SSA.
    Here are some of my closer relatives on 23andme.
    Thank you for replying and congrats on your results!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel Frank Grimes View Post
    Are these cousins on 23andme living further south? SSA appears to pop up in people from Virginia and South Carolina and I'd assume to a degree descendants of people whose origin are from these states. I don't include Louisiana since it has a different history than that of the rest of the south.

    An interesting fact is in the very early days of settlement in Virgina Black slaves were treated as indentured servants instead of as slaves and they intermarried with White indentured servants. I suspect the same happened in South Carolina and this is much of the basis for that little bit of SSA% in some southerners in that some of the descendants could pass as White and did so.
    My paternal side goes way back to Virginia originally and I still have some family there even though our branch settled in West Virginia a bit before the civil war.
    I suspect they are further south but wasn't able to find their place of residency(didn't wanna stalk them).
    IMO, it is remarkable that as many white southerners have SSA as they do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Profileid View Post
    My paternal side goes way back to Virginia originally and I still have some family there even though our branch settled in West Virginia a bit before the civil war.
    I suspect they are further south but wasn't able to find their place of residency(didn't wanna stalk them).
    IMO, it is remarkable that as many white southerners have SSA as they do.
    In "7 Years a Slave" or however it was titled the author wrote about how he came across an escaped slave who was a White woman hiding in the sticks in Louisiana. She was as White as any White woman he had seen but she was a slave because of her Black grandma or great grandma or whatever. Each generation must have had a White father but interestingly none of them decided to emancipate the child born and so eventually you have a White woman who is treated like a Black slave.

    If you could pass for White and you're a slave and there is a frontier hardly settled it would make sense to make a run for it and 'disappear' in a new community. In the case of that women she would eventually go home cuz the bayou isn't easy to get through.

    I remember reading of a boy being auctioned whose mother was Black (I assume mixed herself) but he was White. The author had a conversation with someone watching the whole scene. The man felt uncomfortable seeing what appeared to be a White child being auctioned. Naturally the poor boy was crying. I don't remember what state it occurred but I do remember it was some years before the Civil War.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel Frank Grimes View Post
    In "7 Years a Slave" or however it was titled the author wrote about how he came across an escaped slave who was a White woman hiding in the sticks in Louisiana. She was as White as any White woman he had seen but she was a slave because of her Black grandma or great grandma or whatever. Each generation must have had a White father but interestingly none of them decided to emancipate the child born and so eventually you have a White woman who is treated like a Black slave.

    If you could pass for White and you're a slave and there is a frontier hardly settled it would make sense to make a run for it and 'disappear' in a new community. In the case of that women she would eventually go home cuz the bayou isn't easy to get through.

    I remember reading of a boy being auctioned whose mother was Black (I assume mixed herself) but he was White. The author had a conversation with someone watching the whole scene. The man felt uncomfortable seeing what appeared to be a White child being auctioned. Naturally the poor boy was crying. I don't remember what state it occurred but I do remember it was some years before the Civil War.
    an interesting and little discussed part of the history of the time. i wonder how many plantation slaves were white passing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Profileid View Post
    IMO, it is remarkable that as many white southerners have SSA as they do.
    Most of it comes from black men in the 1600s who married white indentured servant women before the color line hardened.

    Like this guy: https://www.npr.org/2012/11/24/16551...african-family

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    Quote Originally Posted by Profileid View Post
    an interesting and little discussed part of the history of the time. i wonder how many plantation slaves were white passing.
    I doubt many but you don't need many to get that very low SSA%.

    I always think of the writer Anatole Broyard. He was Louisiana Creole. He didn't tell anyone about his background. He was afraid it would effect his career.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel Frank Grimes View Post
    In "7 Years a Slave" or however it was titled the author wrote about how he came across an escaped slave who was a White woman hiding in the sticks in Louisiana. She was as White as any White woman he had seen but she was a slave because of her Black grandma or great grandma or whatever. Each generation must have had a White father but interestingly none of them decided to emancipate the child born and so eventually you have a White woman who is treated like a Black slave.

    If you could pass for White and you're a slave and there is a frontier hardly settled it would make sense to make a run for it and 'disappear' in a new community. In the case of that women she would eventually go home cuz the bayou isn't easy to get through.

    I remember reading of a boy being auctioned whose mother was Black (I assume mixed herself) but he was White. The author had a conversation with someone watching the whole scene. The man felt uncomfortable seeing what appeared to be a White child being auctioned. Naturally the poor boy was crying. I don't remember what state it occurred but I do remember it was some years before the Civil War.
    I read Ida May a few years ago. It's a story about a white girl from Pennsylvania who gets kidnapped and sold into slavery.
    White slave propaganda was one of the most powerful tools wielded by the antislavery movement.

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