What exactly is "MENA" and why does it substitute some sort of "race"?

[Zroota]

I wonder why people use the term MENA. There is already a phenotype defined for that.

Phenotype or phenotypes?

[cyberlorian]

Phenotype or phenotypes?

Orientalid.

[Wadaad]

Josep Stalin (Georgan), Saddam Hussein (Iraqi) and Ali Abdullah Saleh (Yemen) had similar mustaches... imagine that mustache on Boris Yeltsin. Cannot? because its a "MENA" mustache.

You dont have to be tied to Moroccans and Sahrawis, but in general, the MENA category makes sense and maybe including Georgians and Armenians into it makes more sense than hilighting the difference of Kurds and Moroccans

[StonyArabia]

At the end of the day I see myself as an Arabian and Arab. I don't really care for other "Mideasterners" like Iranians, Azeris, Turks, and others ect.

[JohnSmith]

I would say MENA that have significant SSA are considered mixed race. However, they are Caucasian mostly.

[StonyArabia]

I would say MENA that have significant SSA are considered mixed race. However, they are Caucasian mostly.

North Africans on here are cherry picked. Most North Africans have SSA that does not show, because it's ancient. Anyways I lived in Libya and it was nice place, and the people very hospital. However Arab speakers should be just Arabs. Arab means to be "mixed" in Hebrew or to be dark skinned, and also "nomad". As we have nothing in common with Georgians or Iranians. Yes Sudanese despite being blacks are part of our nation, heck many of them share same paternal tribes as people of the Arabian peninsula

[JohnSmith]

North Africans on here are cherry picked. Most North Africans have SSA that does not show, because it's ancient. Anyways I lived in Libya and it was nice place, and the people very hospital. However Arab speakers should be just Arabs. Arab means to be "mixed" in Hebrew or to be dark skinned, and also "nomad". As we have nothing in common with Georgians or Iranians. Yes Sudanese despite being blacks are part of our nation, heck many of them share same paternal tribes as people of the Arabian peninsula

I think a lot of people use the term "race" and "racism" in ways that is not correct. If one is prejudice against some group that is still part of your race that is called bigotry not racism. For example if a Scandinavian dislikes Italians because they think they are lazy that is not racism. It is just plain old prejudice and bigotry.

[Wadaad]

I would say MENA that have significant SSA are considered mixed race. However, they are Caucasian mostly.

Then turks should be seen as MENA mestizos

[JohnSmith]

Then turks should be seen as MENA mestizos

I love the Turks they certainly are a proud people that stood their ground for centuries with their empire.

[StonyArabia]

Then turks should be seen as MENA mestizos

Yes because they have significant Mongoloid admixture, and also South Asian which was uncommon in Anatolia before the Turkic migrations who brought there.