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    Quote Originally Posted by Isleño View Post
    I’m a conservative. I believe in traditionalism. Pro-opposite sex, pro-masculinism, pro-gun, pro-freedom of speech and a bunch of other conservative ideas like less immigration, against illegal immigration, more focus on the nation’s citizens, less welfare, better paid health care, no racial quotas for anything so against affirmative action, against racial scholarships and against racial quotas for schools or jobs, against identity politics, pro-religion, smaller government and all the traditional ideas of a nation.
    Isn't better paid healthcare very "communist and socialist" for americans? I mean, many americans told me I am very socialist because i prefere the european healthcare system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oneeye View Post
    Conservative but asking for a second helping of eugenics. Pass them this way, please.
    No one with a brain can be for anything but this.

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    I'm conservative.

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    I was a bleeding-heart liberal during my teens up until I was 22 or so, but my views have shifted more to the right over the past few years

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    A progressive libertarian, like Murray Rothbard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ioan assen View Post
    Michelangelo is still the greatest artist that have ever lived and he was gay.
    Leonardo is a genius too who has outlived his time by centuries. Also gay.
    Both were hugely respected while alive. Michelangelos funeral was the first funeral to resemble a "celebrity" funeral. The Florentines almost stole the body to be buried in Florence (the pope wanted to burry him in Rome).
    Only them both have tremendously shaped Europe. Their influence on the culture of the whole of Europe is immeasurable.
    They were not "gay". There was no concept of gayness back then. They just molested boys.

    Michelango molested a boy named Cecchino dei Bracci from when he was 12 (till his death at 16). Michelangelo had a [female] lover named Vittoria Colonna who he desired. If he was really "gay", then he wouldn't have written 300+ poems and sonnets to her. The fact is he just molested a little boy cause there was no concept of heterosexual or homosexual back then and he did what he felt like doing when he was horny and boys were easy to access.

    Leonardo da Vinci (while aged 38) molested a 10 year old boy named Gian Giacomo Caprotti da Oreno and Leonardo (while aged 54) also molested a 15 year old boy named Francesco Melzi.

    These are your "gay" heroes. Try to name some famous "gay" figure from the early days that wasn't a pedophile. You likely won't be able to. They had no concept of sexuality back then. The men molested boys because they were easier to access. These same men then exclusively married women. Since you are talking about how "progressive" Ancient Rome and Ancient Greece were in regards to sexuality, what do you make of the fact that they permitted pedophilia but the entire concept of men marrying men or women marrying women was non-existent among them?

    Anyways, all you basically did was praised random pedophiles and attributed their [non-existent] sexuality to their achievements. I don't see any remote correlation with banging a child and becoming a great artist. Mentioning it was pointless.
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    I consider me very conservative. I am tolerant and respectful in many aspects (religion, likes and dislikes...etc.) but I feel for example that post-modernism is a garbage.
    About politics I like spanish falangism. And I like the current italian government.

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    Conservatives live in my far left side.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ioan assen View Post
    Of course I can. Where exactly Jesus speaks against LGBT? And don't point to the old testament (parts of Torrah) as it is quite old school, hasn't stood the test of time and has enormous amounts of forbidden things that nowadays are done by Christians without betting an eye (like eating a shellfish).
    The Old Testament is not only for Jews, only specific parts (e.g. eating shellfish) are only for Jews.

    Those parts are specified: http://pjsaunders.blogspot.com/2013/...lfish-but.html

    Do you support them solely because you believe that they are born that way or because of your values regarding freedom of expression? If its the latter, then do you also support polygamy and same-sex incestuous relationships?

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    Im a mix of socialism, christian-conservativism. I have a unique position. I dont vote in the elections.
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