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    Default Nepalese DNA

    Nepalese DNA results of different castes/groups

    Brahmins/Bahuns(similar to NW indians with slight east asian shift)
    Chettris (75% indic, 20-25% mongoloid)
    Newars(50/50)
    Sino-Tibetan groups(Rai, limbus, gurungs, tamang, sherpas, magars) (75-95% mongoloid, 5-25% indic)

    Black cluster includes the nepalese populations, mostly newars and sino tibetans.


    Indian adoptee, most likely from the himalayas and she comes out half indian and half tibetan/east asian similar to most newars.



    Her gedmatch kit: A922277

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 NE-Asian 39.02
    2 S-Indian 26.29
    3 Baloch 15.27
    4 Siberian 5.57
    5 SE-Asian 3.66
    6 NE-Euro 2.59
    7 Mediterranean 1.92
    8 Caucasian 1.85
    9 Papuan 1.55
    10 Beringian 1.44
    11 American 0.53
    12 San 0.23
    13 E-African 0.08

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 nepalese-b (xing) 12.69
    2 nepalese-c (xing) 18.61
    3 uyghur (hgdp) 26.4
    4 garo (chaubey) 27.13
    5 hazara (hgdp) 27.23
    6 burmanese (chaubey) 27.28
    7 khasi (chaubey) 30.25
    8 uzbek (behar) 33.31
    9 kyrgyz (hodoglugil) 34.51
    10 kyrgyz (xing) 34.63
    11 kazakh (harappa) 35.04
    12 great-andamanese (reich) 38.37
    13 mongola (hgdp) 38.43
    14 bengali (harappa) 38.84
    15 xibo (hgdp) 39.55
    16 burusho (hgdp) 39.59
    17 tu (hgdp) 39.93
    18 mongolian (rasmussen) 39.96
    19 nepalese-a (xing) 40.77
    20 up-muslim (harappa) 41.15

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 53.5% tu (hgdp) + 46.5% up-muslim (metspalu) @ 2.21
    2 53% bengali (harappa) + 47% tibet (simonson) @ 2.29
    3 54% tu (hgdp) + 46% dharkar (metspalu) @ 2.31
    4 54% tu (hgdp) + 46% tharu (metspalu) @ 2.34
    5 52.7% tu (hgdp) + 47.3% caribbean-indian (harappa) @ 2.34
    6 54.1% tu (hgdp) + 45.9% kanjar (metspalu) @ 2.39
    7 54.1% tu (hgdp) + 45.9% andhra-pradesh (harappa) @ 2.58
    8 52.3% tu (hgdp) + 47.7% sri-lankan (harappa) @ 2.59
    9 52.8% tu (hgdp) + 47.2% up (harappa) @ 2.66
    10 54.6% tu (hgdp) + 45.4% karnataka (harappa) @ 2.81
    11 55% bengali (harappa) + 45% naga (metspalu) @ 2.84
    12 52.6% tu (hgdp) + 47.4% kerala-muslim (harappa) @ 2.85
    13 52.6% tu (hgdp) + 47.4% bihari (harappa) @ 2.85
    14 54.7% tu (hgdp) + 45.3% up-scheduled-caste (metspalu) @ 2.91
    15 54.5% bengali (harappa) + 45.5% nysha (reich) @ 2.96
    16 51.2% japanese (hgdp) + 48.8% up-muslim (metspalu) @ 2.96
    17 55.2% tu (hgdp) + 44.8% lodi (reich) @ 3.02
    18 54.5% tu (hgdp) + 45.5% sinhalese (harappa) @ 3.08
    19 55.6% bengali (harappa) + 44.4% aonaga (reich) @ 3.08
    20 53.7% tu (hgdp) + 46.3% tamil (harappa) @ 3.09

    Limbu - He didn't do gedmatch but here are his myheritage results

    Asia 98.4
    chinese/vietnamese - 46.9
    mongolian - 35
    nepali(assuming brahmin)- 16.9




    Bahun/brahmin

    1S-Indian33.54
    2Baloch33.33
    3NE-Euro12.43
    4Caucasian11.68
    5Siberian3.82
    6SE-Asian2.21
    7Mediterranean1.23
    8NE-Asian1.18


    Bahun:

    1Baloch35.85
    2S-Indian34.47
    3NE-Euro12.12
    4Caucasian8.72
    5NE-Asian4.28
    6Mediterranean1.79
    7Beringian1.08


    Chettri

    1S-Indian32.92
    2Baloch23.60
    3NE-Asian19.62
    4NE-Euro7.87
    5Siberian4.93
    6Caucasian3.56
    7SE-Asian2.88
    8SW-Asian2.18
    9Beringian1.15


    Another Chhetri:

    1S-Indian32.94
    2Baloch26.63
    3NE-Asian19.45
    4NE-Euro7.59
    5Caucasian4.89
    6Siberian2.89
    7American1.50
    8SE-Asian1.47
    9Papuan1.13
    10Beringian1.00

    Newar

    S Indian 25.29
    Baloch 8.17
    Caucasian 1.41
    NE Euro 2.68
    SE Asian 0.93
    Siberian 5.65
    NE Asian 50.20
    Papuan 0.86
    American 1.14
    Beringian 1.30
    Mediterranean 1.33
    SW Asian 0.34
    San 0.20
    E African 0.47
    Pygmy 0.03

    Sino tibetan groups

    From the paper: Genetic structure in the Sherpa and neighboring Nepalese populations, Cole et al., 2017
    https://bmcgenomics.biomedcentral.co...864-016-3469-5

    The Newar appeared as the most admixed Nepalese ethnic group, with similar proportions of Tibetan and ANI ancestry (Table 1). The Rai, Magar and Tamang showed 92%, 82% and 79% Tibetan ancestry, respectively.

    Rai - 92% mongoloid, 8% indic
    Magar - 82% mongoloid, 18% indic
    Tamang - 79% mongoloid, 21% indic

    Sherpa (K6)
    Population Sherpa
    East_Asian 73.5
    Ancestral_South_Eurasian 12.6
    Ancestral_North_Eurasian 9.3
    Natufian 4.6
    West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 0
    Sub_Saharan 0


    Tamang (MDLP k16)
    Population Tamang
    SouthEastAsian 50.82
    Siberian 21.95
    Indian 18.26
    Australian 2.32
    Neolithic 1.64
    EastAfrican 1.09
    Oceanic 0.91
    Ancestor 0.84
    Amerindian 0.74
    NorthEastEuropean 0.63
    Steppe 0.6
    NorthAfrican 0.2
    Arctic 0
    Caucasian 0
    NearEast 0
    Subsaharian 0

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    some mongoloid nepali gedmatch results (harappa)

    Gurung (M953347)

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    Gurung (XB8642061)
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    Lama (WX4535947)
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    Yangchen/Sherpa (A535293)
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    Subba (T029409)

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    Limbu (FS7632723)

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    Interesting. Those Nepalis are very mongoloid, up to 80+ percent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thambi View Post
    some mongoloid nepali gedmatch results (harappa)

    Gurung (M953347)

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    Gurung (XB8642061)
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    Lama (WX4535947)
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    Yangchen/Sherpa (A535293)
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    Subba (T029409)

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    Limbu (FS7632723)

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    Interesting Gurungs have noticeable amounts of Baloch admixture compared to Limbus with similar S Indian admixture.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NPKTO View Post
    Interesting Gurungs have noticeable amounts of Baloch admixture compared to Limbus with similar S Indian admixture.
    limbus get only 8% though while gurungs get 14-15% south indian. Baloch seems to be legit among gurungs and tamangs, while its more ASI laos/ laobinhan related i think among limbus, sherpas, etc.
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    Nepalese mongoloids - Rais

    Kit DN8510520

    # Population Percent
    1 NE-Asian 72.96
    2 S-Indian 10.5
    3 Siberian 10.3
    4 SE-Asian 3.36
    5 American 1.33
    6 W-African 0.64
    7 Papuan 0.6
    8 Baloch 0.3

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    Kit AF4263490

    # Population Percent
    1 NE-Asian 73.05
    2 Siberian 10.06
    3 S-Indian 7.45
    4 SE-Asian 4.99
    5 Papuan 2.49
    6 Baloch 0.61
    7 Caucasian 0.53
    8 W-African 0.32
    9 American 0.3
    10 Pygmy 0.2

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    Kit HY9950261

    # Population Percent
    1 NE-Asian 73.75
    2 Siberian 10.25
    3 S-Indian 8
    4 SE-Asian 5.23
    5 American 1.26
    6 Pygmy 0.83
    7 Papuan 0.34
    8 Beringian 0.34

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thambi View Post
    Nepalese mongoloids - Rais

    Kit DN8510520

    # Population Percent
    1 NE-Asian 72.96
    2 S-Indian 10.5
    3 Siberian 10.3
    4 SE-Asian 3.36
    5 American 1.33
    6 W-African 0.64
    7 Papuan 0.6
    8 Baloch 0.3

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    Kit AF4263490

    # Population Percent
    1 NE-Asian 73.05
    2 Siberian 10.06
    3 S-Indian 7.45
    4 SE-Asian 4.99
    5 Papuan 2.49
    6 Baloch 0.61
    7 Caucasian 0.53
    8 W-African 0.32
    9 American 0.3
    10 Pygmy 0.2

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    Kit HY9950261

    # Population Percent
    1 NE-Asian 73.75
    2 Siberian 10.25
    3 S-Indian 8
    4 SE-Asian 5.23
    5 American 1.26
    6 Pygmy 0.83
    7 Papuan 0.34
    8 Beringian 0.34

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    Who are these Rais and if anyone has any clue about their origion?

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    Quote Originally Posted by alpha.ghot View Post
    Who are these Rais and if anyone has any clue about their origion?
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kirati_people

    they're kiratis spread across himalayan region of eastern nepal and parts of northeast india. They're tibetan in origin just like all mongoloid groups in nepal. they just didnt mix as much with surrounding indic populations similar to sherpas.

    Tamangs, gurungs, magars however did mix a decent bit with indic populations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thambi View Post
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kirati_people

    they're kiratis spread across himalayan region of eastern nepal and parts of northeast india. They're tibetan in origin just like all mongoloid groups in nepal. they just didnt mix as much with surrounding indic populations similar to sherpas.

    Tamangs, gurungs, magars however did mix a decent bit with indic populations.
    What about their haplogroups?

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    If there are Chettri related samples in G25 or any Gedmatch oracle so far?

    I have all Nepali groups except them. And never heard about it.

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