How would the United States be if it had never become independent from the United Kingdom?

**Smeagol** · 08-31-2018, 01:57 AM

Originally Posted by Ruggery

Today, even with the government of Donald Trump, the United States is no more conservative than Canada and Western Europe, on the other hand, they are equally liberal.

That isn't true. The US is farther to the right than Canada or any Western European country.

**alnortedelsur** · 08-31-2018, 01:58 AM

Originally Posted by Ruggery

Canada drive on the left side like Americans and the rest of the world.

I know that. But I am not sure if it would be the same if both countries had remained ruled by the British.

**~~Bobby Martnen~~** · 08-31-2018, 02:00 AM

Originally Posted by Ruggery

San Francisco it is the LGBT capital of the world and guess in which country it is.

**Ruggery** · 08-31-2018, 02:05 AM

Originally Posted by Smeagol

That isn't true. The US is farther to the right than Canada or any Western European country.

Some example? I see Russia and Japan as more conservative than the United States.

**Ruggery** · 08-31-2018, 02:08 AM

Originally Posted by Bobby Martnen

I'm not right?

**Ruggery** · 08-31-2018, 02:09 AM

Originally Posted by alnortedelsur

I know that. But I am not sure if it would be the same if both countries had remained ruled by the British.

I do not know most likely, yes.

**Smeagol** · 08-31-2018, 02:13 AM

Originally Posted by Ruggery

Some example? I see Russia and Japan as more conservative than the United States.

Which is why I said more to the right than Canada or western Europe which neither Japan or Russia are part of. But the average American who doesn't live in one of the big cities is a Republican and voted for Trump while European users say that even our Democrats are center-right by their standards. Our President also openly says we have to put Americans first, secure our borders, and is keeping hordes of rapefugees out.

**Ruggery** · 08-31-2018, 02:19 AM

Originally Posted by Smeagol

Which is why I said more to the right than Canada or western Europe which neither Japan or Russia are part of. But the average American who doesn't live in one of the big cities is a Republican and voted for Trump while European users say that even our Democrats are center-right by their standards. Our President also openly says we have to put Americans first, secure our borders, and is keeping hordes of rapefugees out.

The vast majority of Americans people are conservative? I do not believe it.

**Smeagol** · 08-31-2018, 02:21 AM

Originally Posted by Ruggery

The vast majority of Americans people are conservative? I do not believe it.

More like about half.

**JosephK** · 10-09-2018, 05:49 PM

I've always imagined the US would have been more like a European country, I suppose more Canada-like, but that the South would have seceded and would be more like a 3rd-world country. It would have been interesting.