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    Default Alternative history: What if Turks first encountered and adopted Christianity instead of Islam?

    What do you guys think would happen if Turks encountered and adopted a Christian type of culture instead of immersing themselves in Islam and establishing themselves as a Caliphate?

    What would happen if they somehow first encountered and were enchanted by Christian Byzantium instead of Muslim Persia?

    How would it have played then and how would it conclude today?

    geographically, culturally, politically.
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    Quote Originally Posted by itilvolga View Post
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    They would have then become the conquered and not the conqueror.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thanas Django View Post
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    anyway if you really wonder what would be happen, look at Gagauz Turks.

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    The world in late Middle Ages wasn't as backward as many thinks. There were people who were travelling, spreading faiths and making propaganda.

    The Turks (Oghuz people) lived inside Khazarian Khaganate and were exposed to both Jewish and Christian propaganda, however this was both rejected.

    Judaism appeared weird and mysterious, probably why that didn't make through. Christianity lost from the very beginning, since the worship of humans, icons and statues were very strange and not compatible with Turks who had Siberian shamanic and Tengrianist mentality. Even today Yakuts, despite 300 years of constant Russian Orthodox propaganda are still not Christian truly.

    We must also emphasize Turks rejected the Islam brought by Arabs. Sogdian missionaries were successful among the Turks. Not Arabs. Turks were lured into Sogdian version of Islam which posed that as a human and popular faith, while rejecting the Arab Islam which was an ethno-religious chauvinism Arabizing folks and spreading by the sword. See today, Arameans, Coptes, Berbers and many other cultures were wiped out by Arab Islam.
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    Türks did not adopt Islam. The Türk volk vanished/seized to exist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yaglakar View Post
    Türks did not adopt Islam. The Türk volk vanished/seized to exist.
    When you say Turks, that's only Oghuz people. Karluks like Uighurs and Uzbeks are Turkic but not Turks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thanas Django View Post
    What do you guys think would happen if Turks encountered and adopted a Christian type of culture instead of immersing themselves in Islam and establishing themselves as a Caliphate?

    What would happen if they somehow first encountered and were enchanted by Christian Byzantium instead of Muslim Persia?

    How would it have played then and how would it conclude today?

    geographically, culturally, politically.
    It would be same. Turks had more Soldiers than Romans but they did not have citizens. They were nomads.

    It's just instead Ottoman Empire you would have Roman Empire, and they would be absorbed the same way as today.

    Turkic influence isn't alien in Constantinople. Even before Turks, Roman Emperor Leo the Khazar had Turkic blood.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leo_IV_the_Khazar

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    Quote Originally Posted by Böri View Post
    When you say Turks, that's only Oghuz people. Karluks like Uighurs and Uzbeks are Turkic but not Turks.
    Oghuz are from Mongolia. The Caspian-Aral Oghuz is the smaller branch of Mongolia's Oghuz. But they don't teach you that in Turkey, do they? Uzbeks and Uighurs are not Qarluqs. There is merely Qarluq layer within these groups. The same way you not Oghuz, because the most Oghuz and Toquz Oghuz remained in Mongolia, and nominal Oghuz branch has an Oghuz layer among others.

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