Suicide: Yes or No?

[MarcvSS]

I have no idea whether this is an appropiate topic to put on this board, so sorry if I made an error in this.

The topictitle says a lot I think, however I got some questions about the topic and maybe people would like to reply anyways...

Maybe a little explanation from my part is in order...

For the last year and a half, or maybe even for over two years, the thought of taking my own life has crossed my mind severals times. The reasons are many different ones, wich I wont elaborate on a public board...

My question are very simple;

• What is your opinion in general about suicide?
• Have you ever had these feelings yourself, and how did you cope with them?
• Do you now persons who commited suicide and how did you respond to this?

• Do you think suicide/euthanisia is perse wrong?

I hope I don't hurt people with this topic, cause that is surely not my intention... All I can say is that I'm looking for answers.

Sorry if I hurt peoples feelings with this, I really am...

Thanks in advance dear friends...

[Ulf]

• What is your opinion in general about suicide?
• Have you ever had these feelings yourself, and how did you cope with them?
• Do you now persons who commited suicide and how did you respond to this?

• Do you think suicide/euthanisia is perse wrong?

• Not sure, really.
  
• I plan to end my own life at some point. I just want to go out on my own terms. That said, I just think about the ones I would leave behind and how hurt I think they might feel. I've had an uncontrollable preoccupation with thoughts of my own death all my life. There's too many things I want to do before I leave.
  
• One of my best friends in high school laid down on the train tracks. We all took off from school the next day and ordered a bunch of pizzas, smoked weed, drank and reminisced.
  
• No.

[Fortis in Arduis]

• What is your opinion in general about suicide?
  
• Have you ever had these feelings yourself, and how did you cope with them?
  
• Do you now persons who commited suicide and how did you respond to this?
  
• Do you think suicide/euthanisia is perse wrong?

• Suicide is an individual's choice and right. It should not be illegal.
  
• Yes, and I buried them and became self-destructive. I still am.
  
• No, I knew someone who committed suicide. She was a thoroughly decent girl who just felt terribly isolated and misunderstood. I feel neutral about it. It was her choice.
  
• No. I do not.

We are souls not bodies, and we take whatever karmic account we have now, with us, into the next existence, so essentially we do not die if we commit suicide, nor do we escape our misfortunes.

Attachment to the body and to each others' bodies are the main causes of misery in this life.

If someone can experience detachment from their body without needing to go to extremes, then they will be a happier person.

[Stossy]

What is your opinion in general about suicide?
The last thing that I would do, and if I would do it I would do it in a way that my name will be remembered.

Have you ever had these feelings yourself, and how did you cope with them?
Yes, in January and the beginning of February I have thought about this several times. Me and my girlfriend broke up, got betrayed by a person that I saw as my family (he was related to me in a way), it wasn't going so well with you. And it just was too much for me and the knife on my desk looked pretty attractive...
Well I accepted it that there are people who can betray you like this, so I got a little bit of peace with that. It went a little bit better with you and we drank something.
Just accepted it and realised that I still have an entire life ahead of me.

Do you now persons who commited suicide and how did you respond to this?
The father of a friend of mine, from my old school. I was pretty shocked when I got word about it.

Do you think suicide/euthanisia is perse wrong?
Well I would only use it as a last resort. When there are people that can still help me I won't think about suicide. That is the best in my eyes, just fall back on your friends that are there for you.

[Loki]

I have no idea whether this is an appropiate topic to put on this board, so sorry if I made an error in this.

I think it's very important to discuss this, so yes, I have no problem with this topic.

[Baron Samedi]

* What is your opinion in general about suicide? I think it's a good idea for some people, specifically those with honor/personal integrity issues that cannot be fixed.


* Have you ever had these feelings yourself, and how did you cope with them? Daily. I accept them as part of my psyche. If the time comes, and my Wyrd is as such, then I shall off myself, for it is as the Norns decreed whence I became into existence.

* Do you now persons who commited suicide and how did you respond to this? Yes, I had a heathen friend who recently did it. I was emotionally apathetic. He was a good man, lived a good life, and went out with a bloody bang (hopefully... He would have wanted it that way, I think). He had his reasons, and they are to be honored and upheld. I have sung to him recently, and I hope the tune has reached whatever twilight he may reside in now.

* Do you think suicide/euthanisia is perse wrong? No, I am all for it.

[YggsVinr]

1. While I don't really think of it as an inherently good or bad act (I think its highly individual), I do think that many in society have a rather simplistic view of suicide as an act of weakness, cowardice, and selfishness. While for some that may be so, I do not think that any of that is necessarily true.

2. Since childhood I've had these sorts of thoughts, initially stemming from certain circumstances and events in my childhood. Today it is the sense that I've disappointed myself or those I care for, that I haven't lived up to my own expectations. There is always a lingering sense of worthlessness and failure. Betrayal by someone I considered to be one of the best friends has also put me in doubt, but in these times I remember this quotation of Nietzsche's:

The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe. If you try it, you will be lonely often, and sometimes frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself.

Yet no matter what I've always managed to start over, stronger than before. My mother is the primary reason because I know she needs me right now. To leave her in her time of need would be dishonourable! There is too much I want to do before death. There are goals I would never forgive myself for not achieving, journeys it is necessary to embark upon. I've always considered myself a strong person that doesn't shy away from new or negative situations, instability, or challenges. Is there really any challenge that I could ever let myself believe that my will could not overcome?

Also, as Ulf stated in his post, I also want to have control over my own death. I'd rather take my own life or lose it fighting than die of natural causes.

3. No.

4. No, I do not.

[HawkR]

* What is your opinion in general about suicide?
* Have you ever had these feelings yourself, and how did you cope with them?
* Do you now persons who commited suicide and how did you respond to this?

* Do you think suicide/euthanisia is perse wrong?

Doesn't actually mind it.

Not well, but everytime I'll try to take my life there's something stopping me, so I've decided to quit trying, as long as I got my gf I will still be alive.

Yeah, the mother of my friend, she had a pretty good life, but just like that, she hung herself in the stariwell one day.

Suicide is not wrong, and neither right, when you die, you die.

[Black Turlogh]

I know it's said often enough, but suicide is, to me, weakness. It is the struggle of man to be confronted with adversity and subsequently overcome it. I care not how severe said adversity is; to find an escape from adversity is, indeed, cowardice.

There is little wrong with feeling low, with lamenting in times of difficulty. The important thing is to cast said things aside and see them for exactly what they are; a challenge.

[SouthernBoy]

Who depends upon your strength? Who depends upon your knowledge? Who depends upon your love?

Suicide is a selfish act. You are stealing yourself from them that need you. If you can not manage to love yourself, atleast manage to love others. There's yet good you can accomplish and there always will be.