Why doesn't Turkey attract the same global controversy and stigma Israel does?

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Turkey is at least the equal of Israel when it comes to human rights abuses, and is just as guilty of the things Israel is usually criticised for, such as an illegal occupation and mistreatment of minorities. In addition, it has the dubious distinction of jailing more journalists than any other country in the world - not even countries like North Korea and Saudi Arabia come close. Yet despite all this, it is Israel that is often said to be possibly the biggest threat to world peace, and has been the target of around one quarter of all UN resolutions. Many of the same people, particularly on the Left, who want Israel to be sanctioned, boycotted and isolated would have no qualms about visiting or doing business with Turkey. Why this glaring double standard?

There are a few hundred UN resolutions against Turkey. Turkey is in breach of over 100 UN Resolutions pertaining to its illegal occupation and genocide in Cyprus, more than any other state. Turkey has used chemical weapons against its own people including Kurdishcivilians and against the civilian population of Cyprus. It has all the characteristics of a rogue state.

It is a bit comical when Turkey gives morality lectures to Israel considering its own murderous tract record

Netanyahu: Erdogan shouldn’t preach morality to Israel

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu slammed Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan’s attack against Jews, stating that he was hardly in any position to be preaching morality.

“Erdogan – the occupier of northern Cyprus, whose army massacres women and children in Kurdish villages, inside and outside Turkey should not preach to Israel,” Netanyahu said.

Netanyahu spoke out after Erdogan publicly stated, that Jews in Israel kick people when they lie on the floor, adding that Jews kick not only men but also women and children.

[Tooting Carmen]

The disturbing similarities between Netanyahu and Erdogan (and their respective nations more generally): https://www.haaretz.com/middle-east-...ists-1.7062451

[Westbrook]

Turkey has a lot more allies and better diplomatic relations with the world (somehow)

Anti-Turk sentiment would be "racist" so there's no political movement dedicated to opposing them in the west

[Catarinense1998]

Erdogan is just a sionist puppet working hidely to help Israel. I have never falling in his trick game. Erdogan's plan:

1 part: Erdogan wants to turn Turkey into a new islamic state. This is happening right now with syrians and afghans. Erdogan is buying support from islamic people.

2 Part: Erdogan will create a new caliphate. He will invade each ex ottoman territory.

3 Part: OTAN will fight Erdogan's imperialism. The Empire will fall, and Netanyahu will colonize Anatolia with jews.

That's the plan.

[sean]

Why doesn't Turkey attract the same global controversy and stigma Israel does? Turkey is at least the equal of Israel when it comes to human rights abuses, and is just as guilty of the things Israel is usually criticised for, such as an illegal occupation and mistreatment of minorities. In addition, it has the dubious distinction of jailing more journalists than any other country in the world - not even countries like North Korea and Saudi Arabia come close. Yet despite all this, it is Israel that is often said to be possibly the biggest threat to world peace, and has been the target of around one quarter of all UN resolutions.

Turkey gets away with things because of their strategic position. Turkey is a strategic asset for NATO and for stationing nukes. Without that Turkey is irrelevant on the world stage.

If Turkey wasn't aligned at all with the West, then Russia and Iran would have long instigated a Kurdish revolt in Turkey.

However, American military assets are quietly being removed from Turkey, and Turkey is cooperating less and less with American foreign policy priorities in the region.

If the US decided to no longer be Europe's defacto army, Turkey, if in the EU, would very quickly become it's muscle. It's already the second largest force in NATO. Also, the moment China gets the actual Silk road going with Turkey, even Russia will be thrown away like a cheap whore.

Many of the same people, particularly on the Left, who want Israel to be sanctioned, boycotted and isolated would have no qualms about visiting or doing business with Turkey. Why this glaring double standard?

Well, if we left the Muslims and Africans to their own bidding they would genocide each other without any qualms. Muslim countries simply don't have the right culture for democracy to work. Atatürk literally put people in jail for wearing traditional Turkish cap and banned the Kurdish language, yet he is somehow the hero of “liberals” who talk about muh freedoms.

The Left won't protest so much because they know Islam has something to do with brown skin. Liberals in Europe have surrendered leadership to their women and assigned victim status to their brown pets. The best way to handle a volatile and irrational group such as this is to let them self destruct.

Even Turks in Germany have the German media to suck their dick and tell them their failure to contribute to society is the German society's fault. Turks in Germany vote like negroes in America and every party will attempt to pander to them in order to win their massive block vote.

A lot of western liberals say "racists just need to travel the world and experience other cultures", but they themselves fall victim to every little scam and swindle by brown and black beings crossing their path.

Spoiler!

As a matter of fact, a lot of western liberals (especially Owen Jones-reading Guardianistas) are also complaining non-stop about how Turkey is turning into a complete fascist dictatorship. And how the poor Kurds are treated.

They claim Kurds are democratic but there's substantial evidence of political repression and Marxist authoritarianism in the areas they control in the Middle East. They claim they're pro-woman but the senior leadership preys on young Kurdish women and there's a ton of sexual harassment/assault/rape that's simmering away there. They claim they promote multi-ethnic societies but there have been significant reports of Kurdish forces burning down villages and forcibly displacing other ethnic groups. And all this is without going into the forced conscriptions and use of child soldiers.

Liberals don't have deep beliefs that would withstand any peer criticism.

[brennus dux gallorum]

Its a little complicated, but the fact that israel is more succesfull as well as the fact that it is inhabited by Jews, who have the negative stigma of "ruling the world", certainly plays a role.

Israel is extremely influential for its size, Turkey the opposite, for western world standards, but has gained a lot of reputation within the Islamic world during the last decades

[jfgh676]

Some EU Shills here will be mad. But truth of the matter erdogan put his foot on the ground when it comes to turkey matters. As for israel,just watch them blatantly jailing children,videos of them killing child,pregnant women and medical staff alike,really no honest comparison here to a few political detainees