Why doesn't Turkey attract the same global controversy and stigma Israel does?

[Tooting Carmen]

Israel is described by the left, as a western colonialist power supported by US.

Well up to a point it is. However, it cannot be denied that many of the things that Israel is often criticised for Turkey is also guilty of, but the contrast in terms of how the two countries are most of the time regarded internationally is quite striking.

[Visage pâle]

Well up to a point it is. However, it cannot be denied that many of the things that Israel is often criticised for Turkey is also guilty of, but the contrast in terms of how the two countries are most of the time regarded internationally is quite striking.

There are many muslims countries, and they don't like Israel. They have significative influence in ONU. Cyprus is supported by Greece and after ? Nodody care, it's crual but it's true.

[Skjaldemjøden]

The Islamic bloc in the UN and antisemitism.

[Marmara]

Because nobody gives a shit what's happening here.

Still, today Israel is far behind Turkey in terms of human rights abuses. You can definetly not compare Kurds with Palestinians. Palestinians are effectively getting purged from their homelands.

Also, the number of arrested joirnalists doesn't equate to freedom of press, one country can have no journalists locked up and still have terrible freedom of press, simply because no one ever dares to write against the government. In Turkey there is definetly freedom of press to a degree, can't even be compared to China and i don't know about Russia but i don't think Putin can be criticized so easily.

[Kukushka]

How much critizism does afg or any other islamic country recirve?

[Böri]

Turks are on their rightful lands. That's recognized.
For Jews it would be same but there are other involvements especially religious. The Christians and many Muslims don't think they have right to be there. Jews being/returning in Palestine is in the core happenings of almost all religions as form of prophecy or apocaliptic scenario. Nobody cares about Turkey or any country in the world as much as for Jews for this reason.

That's the problem when you are the Chosen Folk...

Beside that, Jews gun down Arabs for sports.
Israel isn't secular state, unlike Turkey. Israel is a Jewish Sharia state.
In Torah, you have violent parts where it tells ''enter the promised land of Canaan, kill their men, burn their crops'' etc.
So, Jews aren't driven by a pacifist secularism but by their religion which calls upon them to slaughter native Canaanites to gain some Halal points.

[EuropeanVlachSon]

Turkey is at least the equal of Israel when it comes to human rights abuses, and is just as guilty of the things Israel is usually criticised for, such as an illegal occupation and mistreatment of minorities. In addition, it has the dubious distinction of jailing more journalists than any other country in the world - not even countries like North Korea and Saudi Arabia come close. Yet despite all this, it is Israel that is often said to be possibly the biggest threat to world peace, and has been the target of around one quarter of all UN resolutions. Many of the same people, particularly on the Left, who want Israel to be sanctioned, boycotted and isolated would have no calms about visiting or doing business with Turkey. Why this glaring double standard?

Because 4chan propaganda is not logical at all.
Also, the popullists and right extremists from Europe and USA have more in common with Erdogan regime tha with Israel and jews.

[Kaspias]

About 50,000 person killed by PKK just because they want Turkey's lands. It is a conflict, of course other side will give response to attacks. What would you do if a ethnic group rebelled against you? Actual Kurds and Turks living together, without a problem. But they're not Kurd, they're terrorist.

For example;
http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/pkk...-infant-135255
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/March_2016_Ankara_bombing


Read;
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurdis...%80%93present)


Also you said cyprus invasion, right?

Read;
Greek military coup of July 1974
Main article: 1974 Cypriot coup d'état
In the spring of 1974, Greek Cypriot intelligence discovered that EOKA-B was planning a coup against President Makarios[81] which was sponsored by the military junta of Athens.[82]

The junta had come to power in a military coup in 1967 which was condemned by the whole of Europe but had the support of the United States. In the autumn of 1973 after the 17 November student uprising there had been a further coup in Athens in which the original Greek junta had been replaced by one still more obscurantist headed by the Chief of Military Police, Brigadier Ioannides, though the actual head of state was General Phaedon Gizikis. Ioannides believed that Makarios was no longer a true supporter of enosis, and suspected him of being a communist sympathizer.[82] This led Ioannides to support the EOKA-B and National Guard as they tried to undermine Makarios.[83]

On 2 July 1974, Makarios wrote an open letter to President Gizikis complaining bluntly that 'cadres of the Greek military regime support and direct the activities of the 'EOKA-B' terrorist organization'.[citation needed] He also ordered that Greece remove some 600 Greek officers in the Cypriot National Guard from Cyprus.[84] The Greek Government's immediate reply was to order the go-ahead of the coup. On 15 July 1974 sections of the Cypriot National Guard, led by its Greek officers, overthrew the government.[82]

Makarios narrowly escaped death in the attack. He fled the presidential palace from its back door and went to Paphos, where the British managed to retrieve him by Westland Whirlwind[citation needed] helicopter in the afternoon of 16 July and flew him from Akrotiri to Malta in a Royal Air Force Armstrong Whitworth Argosy transport aircraft and from there to London by de Havilland Comet the next morning.[82][85]

In the meantime, Nikos Sampson was declared provisional president of the new government. Sampson was an ultra-nationalist, pro-Enosis combatant who was known to be fanatically anti-Turkish and had taken part in violence against Turkish civilians in earlier conflicts.[82][86]

The Sampson regime took over radio stations and declared that Makarios had been killed;[82] but Makarios, safe in London, was soon able to counteract these reports.[87] In the coup itself, 91 people were killed.[citation needed] The Turkish-Cypriots were not affected by the coup against Makarios; one of the reasons was that Ioannides did not want to provoke a Turkish reaction.[88][page needed]

In response to the coup, US Secretary of State Henry Kissinger sent Joseph Sisco to try to mediate the conflict.[82] Turkey issued a list of demands to Greece via a US negotiator. These demands included the immediate removal of Nikos Sampson, the withdrawal of 650 Greek officers from the Cypriot National Guard, the admission of Turkish troops to protect their population, equal rights for both populations, and access to the sea from the northern coast for Turkish Cypriots.[89] Turkey, led by Prime Minister Bülent Ecevit, then applied to Britain as a signatory of the Treaty of Guarantee to take action to return Cyprus to its neutral status. Britain declined this offer, and refused to let Turkey use its bases on Cyprus as part of the operation.[90]


Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkis...sion_of_Cyprus


As you see, everything has a cause. Most of events that Turkey did, overrated in Europe Media.

[Skjaldemjøden]

The number of arrested joirnalists doesn't equate to freedom of press, one country can have no journalists locked up and still have terrible freedom of press, simply because no one ever dares to write against the government. In Turkey there is definetly freedom of press to a degree...

Israel isn't secular state, unlike Turkey. Israel is a Jewish Sharia state.

Should I make these my new signature?

[Skjaldemjøden]

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