Are Hungarians descended from Scythians?

[Agyullámtörő]

1. It is generally agreed that the first Indo-Iranian and Hungarian peoples lived in a region extending from East Europe to West Asia, and they originated from same Culture:

"Most researchers associate the Andronovo horizon with early Indo-Iranian languages, though it may have overlapped the early Uralic-speaking area at its northern fringe.[4]
A large group of scholars associate the Andronovo culture with the Indo-Iranians;[2] it was furthermore credited with the invention of the spoke-wheeled chariot around 2000 BC.[18][19] The association between the Andronovo culture and the Indo-Iranians is corroborated by the distribution of Iranian place-names across the Andronovo horizon and by the historical evidence of dominance by various Iranian peoples, including Saka (Scythians), Sarmatians and Alans, throughout the Andronovo horizon during the 1st millennium BC.[2]
Eugene Helimski has suggested that the Andronovo people spoke a separate branch of the Indo-Iranian group of languages. He claims that borrowings in the Finno-Ugric languages support this view.[24] Vladimir Napolskikh has proposed that borrowings in Finno-Ugric indicate that the language was specifically of the Indo-Aryan type.[25]
Since older forms of Indo-Iranian words have been taken over in Uralic and Proto-Yeniseian, occupation by some other languages (also lost ones) cannot be ruled out altogether, at least for part of the Andronovo area, i. e., Uralic and Yeniseian.[26]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andronovo_culture

"During the 4th millennium BC, the Uralic-speaking peoples who were living in the central and southern regions of the Urals split up. Some dispersed towards the west and northwest and came into contact with Iranian speakers who were spreading northwards.[37] From at least 2000 BC onwards, the Ugrian speakers became distinguished from the rest of the Uralic community, of which the ancestors of the Magyars, being located farther south, were the most numerous. Judging by evidence from burial mounds and settlement sites, they interacted with the Indo-Iranian Andronovo culture.[38]"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hungarians

2. There are lot of eastern Iranic word in the Hungarian Language: arany, bors, bűz, ezer, híd, hús, kard, kincs, paradicsom, sajt, tehén, tej, tigris, tinó, tíz, torma, vám, vár, zöld and others. This is a part of our native vocabulary.
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Categ...nian_languages

3. The hungarian ruler class belonged to the scythian r1a-Z93 haplogroup:
https://www.researchgate.net/publica...Szekesfehervar
http://www.academia.edu/36044524/DNA...ces_2018._1_13

4. The hungarian Jász peoples (jassic) are descedants of Scythians, Sarmatians and they were eastern Indo-Iranian speakers:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jasz_people
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jassic_dialect

[Nanushka]

Hungarians are obviously a mixture of Scythians, Huns, Avars and Magyars. I am not talking about the latest mixture with Germanic peoples after turning christianity but this also contibuted to their gene pool later on

[Token]

Hungarians are obviously a mixture of Scythians, Huns, Avars and Magyars. I am not talking about the latest mixture with Germanic peoples after turning christianity but this also contibuted to their gene pool later on

Now tell me, where is the East Asian admixture in modern Hungarians?

[Nanushka]

4. The hungarian Jász peoples (jassic) are descedants of Scythians, Sarmatians and they were eastern Indo-Iranian speakers:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jasz_people
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jassic_dialect

The Jasz were one of the leading tribes of Scythians but latest research show that the material that they left regarding their culture and language points to their Turkic root (Atilla and European Huns, Priscus 420 AD, İlhami Durmus, Scythians 1993, Sarmatians 2007)

[Nanushka]

Now tell me, where is the East Asian admixture in modern Hungarians?

East Asian??

You mean central Asian or Siberian I guess

[Jana]

Not descended from them, but certanly mixed with them in the steppe.
Oldest words in Hungarian are of Finno-Ugric origin.

[Videx]

2. There are lot of eastern Iranic word in the Hungarian Language: arany, bors, bűz, ezer, híd, hús, kard, kincs, paradicsom, sajt, tehén, tej, tigris, tinó, tíz, torma, vám, vár, zöld and others. This is a part of our native vocabulary.
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Categ...nian_languages

Those words are culture words and loan words, not basic words, therefore I wouldn't say the language is from them. They met obviously, but that doesn't mean the real origin of the Magyars in my opinion... the more basic words are similar to Mansi and generally Finno-Ugric.

Hungarians are obviously a mixture of Scythians, Huns, Avars and Magyars. I am not talking about the latest mixture with Germanic peoples after turning christianity but this also contibuted to their gene pool later on

That later mix of Germanic people is not so late, considering Carpathian Basin most probably had people here (slavic, germanic) when the Magyars came, also the tribes that came were already mixed with many different people, even Germanic, according to some research...
The elite probably had some mongoloid features, while the "lesser" fighters didn't. In the end the elite basically died out, or mixed in, but pretty much disappeared.

[Agyullámtörő]

"The elite probably had some mongoloid features, while the "lesser" fighters didn't. In the end the elite basically died out, or mixed in, but pretty much disappeared."

Modern Hungarians have 5% asian DNA:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?...&dopt=Abstract

[İrle]

Obviously they are not. They are merely loan words.

[Dragoon]

A variety of languages were spoken within the Hun Empire.[88] It has been supposed that by the 440s, the "Huns" were more Germanic-speaking subject than speakers of Hunnic, and as such Gothic may have been a lingua franca of the Empire.[89][90] Kim however points out that there is no evidence for the idea that Gothic was a lingua franca.[91] Subjects of the Huns also included Iranian-speaking Alans and Sarmatians.[32] Based on some etymological interpretation of the words strava, medos, and kamos and subsequent historical appearance, the other languages have been taken to include a form of Proto-Slavic language.

Priscus noted that the Hunnic language differed from other languages spoken at Attila's court.[95] He recounts how Zerco made Attila's guests laugh also by the "promiscuous jumble of words, Latin mixed with Hunnish and Gothic".[95] Priscus said that Attila's "Scythian" subjects spoke "besides their own barbarian tongues, either Hunnish, or Gothic, or, as many have dealings with the Western Romans, Latin; but not one of them easily speaks Greek, except captives from the Thracian or Illyrian frontier regions"

In Pritsak's 1982 study The Hunnic Language of the Attila Clan,[100] he analyzes the 33 survived personal names and concludes:

It was not a Turkic language, but one between Turkic and Mongolian, probably closer to the former than the latter. The language had strong ties to Bulgar language and to modern Chuvash, but also had some important connections, especially lexical and morphological, to Ottoman Turkish and Yakut.[100]

... the Huns spoke a Turkic language of the Oghur branch, which also includes the Bulgar, Khazar and Chuvash languages.

In 2013, Hyun Jin Kim suggested that "from the names that we do know, most of which seem to be Turkic... the Hunnic elite was predominantly Turkic-speaking

He noted that, beside Hunnic, people in Attila's court also spoke Gothic and Latin, and that in the western part of the Empire, where subjected Goths lived, people described as Huns probably spoke both the Hunnic and Gothic languages.

evertheless, some scholars still conclude that the Hunnic language cannot presently be classified, and attempts to classify it as Turkic or Mongolic are speculative

It is generally assumed that the Huns practised a form of Tengrism.[110][111] Additionally, influence from earlier Scythian religion was probably also present; Attila claimed superiority over the Scythians by the possession of the "sword of Mars"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huns#Language