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    So maybe leaders were Turkic like, and most of the Huns were Scythian/Germanic?
    Much of that steppe area was Scythian and Sarmatian but later Turkics came right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buusra View Post
    Hungarians are obviously a mixture of Scythians, Huns, Avars and Magyars.
    You forgot Slavs, Vlachs, Germans and Cumans.

    Slavic element is the strongest among modern Hungarians. Before Magyars arrived to Hungary in 896 Slavs were majority in Pannonia, they were especially numerous in present day western Hungary. Magyarization of Slavs and other people in Pannonia was relatively fast. Regardless of that medieval Hungary had an multi-ethnic caracter, because not all pre-Magyar people were magyarized.
    After the creation of Austro-Hungary in 1867 magyrization was state project of Budapest in Hungarian part of empire. Even before 1867 magyriation happened, from the early 18th century. I tend to believe that more Slavic element was abssorbed/magyarized from the early 18th century to present day, than in the middle age.
    Magyarization of Germans (Swabian) happened after 1918 after the disappearence of Austro-Hungary. Frerenc Puskas was magyarized Swabian. Father of Hungarian nation Lajos Kossuth was of Slovakian origin. Hungarian poet and revolutionar Sándor Petőfi was of Serbian-Slovakian origin https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sándor_Petőfi#Early_life

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pribislav View Post
    You forgot Slavs, Vlachs and Cumans.

    Slavic element is the strongest amomg modern Hungarians. Before Magyars arrived to Hungary in 896 Slavs were majority in Pannonia, they were especially numerous in present day western Hungary. Magyarization of Slavs and other people in Pannonia was relatively fast. Regardless of that medieval Hungary had multi-ethnic caracter, because not all pre-Magyar people were magyarized.
    After the creation of Austro-Hungary in 1867 magyrization was state project of Budapest in Hungarian part of empire. Even before 1867 magyriation happened, from the early 18th century. I tend to believe that more Slavic element was magyrized from early 18th cemntury to present day, than in the middle age.
    Magyarization of Germans (Swabian) happened after 1918 after the disappearence of Austro-Hungary. Frerenc Puskas was magyarized Swabian. Father of Hungarian nation Lajos Kossuth was of Slovakian origin. Hungarian poet and revolutionar Sándor Petőfi was of Serbian-Slovakian origin https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sándor_Petőfi#Early_life
    Every nation are mixed. Most of slovaks, czechs aren't slavs by genetically, most of austrians aren't germans, south slavs are slavized illyrians, vlachs, greeks, albanians, thracians and other natives, they have no slavic DNA:
    https://www.eupedia.com/europe/europ...logroups.shtml
    https://cache.eupedia.com/images/con...ogroup-R1a.gif
    So what do you mean?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Agyullámtörő View Post
    Every nation are mixed. Most of slovaks, czechs aren't slavs by genetically, most of austrians aren't germans, south slavs are slavized illyrians, vlachs, greeks, albanians, thracians and other natives, they have no slavic DNA:
    https://www.eupedia.com/europe/europ...logroups.shtml
    https://cache.eupedia.com/images/con...ogroup-R1a.gif
    So what do you mean?
    Actually there is Slavic DNA, with roots in Poland/Belarus area. There is no Hungarian DNA tbh. And all central Europeans are just mix of Slavs, Germanics and Balkanites. Those who created Hungary are already dead, and you would get mostly slavic DNA if you did the DNA test

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    Quote Originally Posted by Agyullámtörő View Post
    Every nation are mixed. Most of slovaks, czechs aren't slavs by genetically, most of austrians aren't germans, south slavs are slavized illyrians, vlachs, greeks, albanians, thracians and other natives, they have no slavic DNA:
    https://www.eupedia.com/europe/europ...logroups.shtml
    https://cache.eupedia.com/images/con...ogroup-R1a.gif
    So what do you mean?
    We Croats are predominately Slavic, so are Slovenes Bosniaks and Western Serbs.
    Only south Slavs who are more native than Slavic are Bulgarians, Macedonians, Montenegrins and eastern Serbs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Algren View Post
    Actually there is Slavic DNA, with roots in Poland/Belarus area. There is no Hungarian DNA tbh. And all central Europeans are just mix of Slavs, Germanics and Balkanites. Those who created Hungary are already dead, and you would get mostly slavic DNA if you did the DNA test
    Well, there is. Hungarians still Harbour Minor Uralic ancestry.
    Stears score Finnish admixture on every DNA test.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Agyullámtörő View Post
    "The elite probably had some mongoloid features, while the "lesser" fighters didn't. In the end the elite basically died out, or mixed in, but pretty much disappeared."

    Modern Hungarians have 5% asian DNA:
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?...&dopt=Abstract
    5% Asian MtDNA but overall less than 1%.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Algren View Post
    Actually there is Slavic DNA, with roots in Poland/Belarus area. There is no Hungarian DNA tbh. And all central Europeans are just mix of Slavs, Germanics and Balkanites. Those who created Hungary are already dead, and you would get mostly slavic DNA if you did the DNA test
    And those who created Serbia are already dead, and you would get mostly albanian, greek, turkish DNA if you did the DNA test

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smeagol View Post
    5% Asian MtDNA but overall less than 1%.
    Not really. Ethnic Hungarians are more than 1 percent mongoloid, usually between 2-3 percent.
    and some groups like Szekely have more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stearsolina View Post
    We Croats are predominately Slavic, so are Slovenes Bosniaks and Western Serbs.
    Only south Slavs who are more native than Slavic are Bulgarians, Macedonians, Montenegrins and eastern Serbs.
    Croats have only 24% slavic DNA, Serbs and Bosnians have 18%, Bulgarians have 17%:
    https://www.eupedia.com/europe/europ...logroups.shtml
    So the ethnic south slavs aren't slavs.

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