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It isn't just an Albanian claim.Originally Posted by CommonSense
If the Albanians were present in any significant number in Kosovo during the Middle Ages, they would have fled the Ottoman invasion alongside the Serbian christians. However, we don't see a single Albanian settlement in the lands occupied by the Hungarian crown, while the Serbian refugees were so numerous that they were almost the majority in a few areas. The only possible way to explain a total lack of Albanian refugees is if they, as a people lived isolated in the mountains....as Algren so brilliantly concluded
There were indeed many medieval charters and similar documents where land in Kosovo was issued to monasteries and feudal lords. There are numerous villages listed in those documents, which gives a clue of what the toponyms of that area were like - not a single one of them was Albanian. And there isn't a shred of evidence that the Dukagjini family held any lands in Kosovo - that's an Albanian clame only and I haven't seen a single work or article in English that even mentions it. Do Albanians also have a Jovan Deretic...Gjon Deretiqi ?
http://self.gutenberg.org/articles/P...y_of_Dukagjini
You can read it in Noels Malcolms book too and various other non Albanian books.
Tell me why did Serbs kill the Croat Sufflay, an Albanologist who wrote on medieval Albanians and Serbs even stole his work ?
The Dukagjini did hold lands in Kosovo and even had it's roots there probably, much like the Kastrioti. Western Kosovo is called Rrafshi Dukagjini for a reason, meaning lowlands of Dukagjini. They held an area from Northern Albania, Malsia e Dukagjinit, all the way to modern day Prishtina. But that's irrelevant. You also forgot the Dardani and it's connection to Albanians.
Regarding medieval Kosovo, there were Arbanas (Albanian) families recorded and also Vlachs and they were probably it's original inhabitants prior to Slavs came. Of course the majority were Slavs when Slavs ruled it. It never allowed for a natural growth of an Albanian population in the first place like it did later since its population was becoming Slavicized, this is why you see Albanian families with Slavic names. The Slavs invaded the lowlands of Kosovo and Kosovo became depopulated, most of its native population probably retreated into the mountains of Northern Albania.
The whole point here is that Kosovo hasn't always been Serbian as you claim. By the 19-20thth century it was majority Albanian anyway. Albanians defeated the Ottomans there under the leadership of Isa Boletini, later Serbia invaded it and occupied it with the area being majority Albanian.
You're telling me because the Nemanjic empire held Kosovo for 200 years that this gives modern day Serbia, which gained it's independence in 1878, to rule an Albanian dominated Kosovo ? What a fucked up logic. It's the majority of the population that decide who they want to be ruled by. Since Kosovo was not Serbian originally then Serbia has no right to rule a majority Albanian area in the first place.
Mind you Kosovo was also originally illegally incorporated into Yugoslavia when Serbs occupied it.
Reality is that your people are chauvinists. You identity with a medieval empire that is not equal to modern day Serbia. You adopted this mentality in the 19th century. You adopted the Orthodox church then as your national identity. And Kosovo as a holy land. Prior to that you had no national consciousness and were scatter in different tribes, dynasties and what not and even fought amongst eachother. I know your people's history better than you, as they say, know your enemy. You decided to occupy areas that once was held by the Nemanjic dynasty despite Serbs weren't the majority there anymore neither were they it's original inhabitants to begin with. And you're using the argument that you made up the majority under Nemanjic for 200 years and that Albanians supposedly were a minority that you have a right to it more than the population that actually inhabitants the area ? What a fucked up logic , dude. You even wanted to steal the coast of Albania through means of occupation and anti Albanian propaganda in order to justify it.
Not to mention Serbs in Kosovo are colonisers that came there during the 1930s with the colonisation program.
Since Kosovo wasn't Serbian to begin with and since the area is majority Albanian since 1912 atleast then it all speaks for itself that it's the majority of the population that decides what happens through votes.
Forget about the Nemanjic empire, dude, they even held what is today Albania and Macedonia and even parts of Northern Greece, all through military occupation. Serbs weren't it's only subjects.
First time Serbia held Kosovo was rather in 20th century through an illegal occupation.
The word Kosovo is Slavic and refers originally to it's Eastern part. It's most certainly not any Serbian that gave it's name but I'm pretty sure it is Bulgarians. Who ruled it for longer than any Serb.
It wasn't Serbia all the time, Serbia did not even exist but by Serbia you mean the Nemanjic dynasty obviously. Just look at the history. It was even Ottoman more than Nemanjic. Just look at all the mosques from Ottomans.
Serbian kings at that time colonised it and built those churches, they are churches that are not any older than the 13th-12 century or so, Kosovo had a history before that, so tell me where are all the Byzantium churches or Roman churches which I'm pretty sure were Albanian and Vlachs who attended them? They were ruined by those very same kings or ''painted over'' while a few were built, then the Nemanjic collapsed later , the rest is history. Serbia was created in 1878 and you developed your national counsciousnes then
Kosovo is not yours and was never originally so to begin with. You just occupied it because you wanted to recreate the Nemanjic empire , a greatee Serbia in a modern context, without thinking about the majority of the people that actually inhabit those lands.
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