Seventh Day Adventism is a dangerously FALSE religion

[Loki]

They teach salvation through Christ's forgiveness. Not living a perfect life free from sin. Christ said, "If you love me, keep my commandments." .

What are Christ's commandments? They are NOT the Ten Commandments... Jesus gave us ONLY TWO COMMANDMENTS...

1) Love God with all your heart and soul and mind
2) Love your neighbour as yourself

[Oneeye]

Born again Christians worship God every day of the week...



What do you mean? What are you referring to?

SDA are born again. They're baptists believing that one must consciously decide to be born again rather than sprinkling babies. And they "worship God every day" too...


You claimed that the Disciples broke the Sabbath, yet offer no proof besides the Pharisees attempted "gotcha". I'm asking if you know which law in the old testament that the Disciples broke, and can show me it?

[Oneeye]

Oneeye my friend, please consider what Paul says here in Colossians 2:

So then, just as you received Christ Jesus as Lord, continue to live your lives in him, 7 rooted and built up in him, strengthened in the faith as you were taught, and overflowing with thankfulness.

8 See to it that no one takes you captive through hollow and deceptive philosophy, which depends on human tradition and the elemental spiritual forces[a] of this world rather than on Christ.

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Freedom From Human Rules

16 Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day.

17 These are a shadow of the things that were to come; the reality, however, is found in Christ.

18 Do not let anyone who delights in false humility and the worship of angels disqualify you. Such a person also goes into great detail about what they have seen; they are puffed up with idle notions by their unspiritual mind.

19 They have lost connection with the head, from whom the whole body, supported and held together by its ligaments and sinews, grows as God causes it to grow.

20 Since you died with Christ to the elemental spiritual forces of this world, why, as though you still belonged to the world, do you submit to its rules: 21 “Do not handle! Do not taste! Do not touch!”?

22 These rules, which have to do with things that are all destined to perish with use, are based on merely human commands and teachings.

23 Such regulations indeed have an appearance of wisdom, with their self-imposed worship, their false humility and their harsh treatment of the body, but they lack any value in restraining sensual indulgence.

Quoting verses about not judging others and loving your neighbor while condemning another branch of protestantism. Really now?

[Oneeye]

What are Christ's commandments? They are NOT the Ten Commandments... Jesus gave us ONLY TWO COMMANDMENTS...

1) Love God with all your heart and soul and mind
2) Love your neighbour as yourself

If Christ is God, then all the commandments are his. If you don't believe in the Trinity, then I think your interpretation is the different one?

[Loki]

Galatians 2

14 When I saw that they were not acting in line with the truth of the gospel, I said to Cephas in front of them all, “You are a Jew, yet you live like a Gentile and not like a Jew. How is it, then, that you force Gentiles to follow Jewish customs?

15 “We who are Jews by birth and not sinful Gentiles 16 know that a person is not justified by the works of the law, but by faith in Jesus Christ. So we, too, have put our faith in Christ Jesus that we may be justified by faith in Christ and not by the works of the law, because by the works of the law no one will be justified.

Galatians 4... Paul is arguing with the Galatians, because they want to keep the law... instead of live by faith... see what he tells them:

8 Formerly, when you did not know God, you were slaves to those who by nature are not gods.

9 But now that you know God—or rather are known by God—how is it that you are turning back to those weak and miserable forces? Do you wish to be enslaved by them all over again?

10 You are observing special days and months and seasons and years!

11 I fear for you, that somehow I have wasted my efforts on you.

Chapter 5...

It is for freedom that Christ has set us free. Stand firm, then, and do not let yourselves be burdened again by a yoke of slavery.

2 Mark my words! I, Paul, tell you that if you let yourselves be circumcised, Christ will be of no value to you at all.

3 Again I declare to every man who lets himself be circumcised that he is obligated to obey the whole law.

4 You who are trying to be justified by the law have been alienated from Christ; you have fallen away from grace.



He mentions circumcision in the example in chapter 5, but he was also mentioning the sabbath earlier... he is talking about all the law.. that if we as Christians want to be keeping the law again, Christ's sacrifice will mean nothing to us anymore, and we would fall from grace!

[Loki]

If Christ is God, then all the commandments are his. If you don't believe in the Trinity, then I think your interpretation is the different one?

Exactly -- when Jesus says he gives us only two commandments in the new covenant, it means that is God saying that to us! and it is! There is not a single place in the New Testament where we are told to uphold the Old Testament laws. Not a single place... it is SDA deceptions.

[Loki]

Quoting verses about not judging others and loving your neighbor while condemning another branch of protestantism. Really now?

SDA is not a branch of Protestantism... it is a sect that preaches a false gospel, and Jesus wants me to point that out for all to see, so people don't fall into the trap of Satan.

[Loki]

SDA are born again. They're baptists believing that one must consciously decide to be born again rather than sprinkling babies. And they "worship God every day" too...

I don't think SDA are born again, I don't see the fruit of the Spirit... and if they were truly born again, they would not be obsessing about keeping the Sabbath... I promise you!!

You claimed that the Disciples broke the Sabbath, yet offer no proof besides the Pharisees attempted "gotcha". I'm asking if you know which law in the old testament that the Disciples broke, and can show me it?

I said Jesus broke the Sabbath, Matthew 12.

The early Christians met on Sunday, according to the Epistle of Barnabas. I will search the text for you now.

[Loki]

If the only difference in SDA teachings was that they went to church on Saturday, instead of Sunday, and decided to keep the Saturday Sabbath... it wouldn't have been that much of a problem for me. But... this Sabbath teaching is but one manifestation of a bigger doctrine within the SDA.. and that is of law-keeping, being made a very essential part of SDA doctrine, and certainly for them a salvation issue. This perverts the core teaching of the true gospel of Jesus Christ, by faith, into accepting works as part of the equation. It is not. And anyone who says it is don't fully understand the gospel of Jesus.

Aside from the law issue, there are other problems, too:

-- Adventists don't believe in the immortality of the humal soul/spirit. They think when someone dies, they are... "dead", as in not conscious of anything. This idea is very easily refuted in scripture, but also in real life experience, such as near-death experiences. Adventists are WRONG about this.

-- Jesus Christ... Adventists teach that Jesus and the archangel Michael is one and the same person! Incidentally, SDA's stablemate, the Jehovah's Witnesses, believe the same thing.

-- Investigative judgement ... a weird concept though up by their "prophet" Ellen G White. It is pure nonsense and heresy.

etc etc...

[Armenian Bishop]

Dr Harvey Kellog was a 7th Day Adventist. He was the Superintendent of the "Battle Creek Sanitarium" in Michigan. He promoted the use hydrotherapy and a 7th Day Adventist diet of grains and fresh produce. In 1894, before marketing Kellogg's Corn Flakes to the general public he served it on the breakfast menu at his Sanitarium, because it supported his views about a grain rich and fresh produce diet.