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    Does exists some system of symbols, clothing, slogans etc., for the clans of Albania
    (like for example in Scottish clans)?
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    From what I know they didn't have slogans but they did have symbols that they would use. The bajrak of Vukel which is part of the Kelmendi clan was said to have a banner depicting a man fighting a serpent. Snakes seem to have been a dominant theme in Albanian paganism as up until recently symbols of serpents and snakes were used. The clothing of the clans was basically like that of other northern Albanians but in the Malesia e madhe region the women still wore/wear the Xhubleta which seems to have declined in usage in other regions. The Albanians from these tribal regions also decorated graves with symbols and motiffs, this probably also happened in other Albanian regions during older times.

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    Vuksanlekaj graves(old Albanian graves from the Hoti clan territory):




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    Quote Originally Posted by Kelmendasi View Post
    From what I know they didn't have slogans but they did have symbols that they would use. The bajrak of Vukel which is part of the Kelmendi clan was said to have a banner depicting a man fighting a serpent. Snakes seem to have been a dominant theme in Albanian paganism as up until recently symbols of serpents and snakes were used. The clothing of the clans was basically like that of other northern Albanians but in the Malesia e madhe region the women still wore/wear the Xhubleta which seems to have declined in usage in other regions. The Albanians from these tribal regions also decorated graves with symbols and motiffs, this probably also happened in other Albanian regions during older times.

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    Vuksanlekaj graves(old Albanian graves from the Hoti clan territory):




    The Hoti. Full J2b2 clan and Christian.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wrong View Post
    The Hoti. Full J2b2 clan and Christian.
    These graves were in fact made by the Anas of Hoti, or old Hoti as they are called by the new Hoti(descendants of Lazar Keqi, J2b2 carriers). The old Hoti that have tested are R1b-BY611, one from Vuksanlekaj has also tested as R1b-BY611.
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    The Albanians, these tigers of mountain wars ... have as their religion rebellion. Even their worst warrior is one of the strongest and bravest on the battle-field, just as if he was a knight on the legendary horse. But he has no horse, nor proper weapons for battle. Instead of the horse, he has a lance which strikes as lightning, he has spears who's points are full of posion as the sting of hornets, he has also a wooden bow with some arrows. Furthermore, he is stronger than iron ...

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