J2b2-L283 and Ilyrian colonisation of the Balkans

[Kelmendasi]

But Yamna were swarty mostly,let alone J2b2,who isnt even yamna.Albanians arent either G2a(white skin mutation occured in Georgia and spread with Neolithic farmers),neither R1a ANE(first blonde hair mutation), neither I(blue eyes).

White skin seems to have been present in CHG peoples as well. Paleolithic sample from Georgia was light skinned although had dark hair and eyes. J carriers may have been light in skin pigmentation as well since CHG peoples carried it. Old carriers of E-V13 or L618 which was it's father clade may also have carried the light skin allele. Albanians have G2a although small in numbers whilst I is the fourth most common haplo among Albanians

[Shqipez]

Lmaoo, never denied its not a process , but you got yours from descend/inheritance from r1b-l23 people who already had it when they invaded Europe, you did not get it randomly from neolitics as it would be uncommon like here or in Greece or other parts of Europe were med and alpine are much more common.
And i'll repeat again you didn't have to get it from Bell Beakers explicitly but from your z2103 carriers who were still under yamnayan r1b-l23 from which Bell Beakers too descend, populations which came since then diverged for thousands of years.
Enjoy your yamnyan goat herder heritage bro, wasnt this your dream to be from the steppe and native?Well, you're even more native than illyrians.

Ilyrians formed in the Balkans. Those others were proto Ilyrians. We are Ilirs for sure. No dreams here. Both autosomally and by haplogroups since they actually formed in the Balkans, specifically the ones from Kosova, Macedonia and Albania. U mad ?

Enjoy your balding head , ' bro' , And your 50% East Euro DNA Mr Dacian.

[Wrong]

But Yamna were swarty mostly,let alone J2b2,who isnt even yamna.Albanians arent either G2a(white skin mutation occured in Georgia and spread with Neolithic farmers),neither R1a ANE(first blonde hair mutation), neither I(blue eyes).

Albanians have white skin and everyone of them have that skin mutation, Coon noted more than 90%+ pale skin in Albanians, measured in armpits where the sun does not reach. G2a was mostly replaced and it's mtDNA mixed with later invaders.
R1a is not pure ANE, but ANE-derived along with R1b by the older R1-clade.
I WHG samples had blue eyes, and so did the mtDNA of the corresponding clades

[Jana]

Yamnanyans were said to be darker than modern southern Europeans actually, despite they were hyper northern European genetically. It is strange indeed.

[Shqipez]

Yamnanyans were said to be darker than modern southern Europeans actually, despite they were hyper northern European genetically. It is strange indeed.

It's because Nordics lost their pigment in large parts so did modern Europeans . We were probably originally dark as West Asians or some Middle Eastern or Caucasians. It isn't super dark but still darker than modern Europeans on average.

Yamnaya were not like North Europeans AFAIK but North Euros and some other populations are the closest to it probably.

[Wrong]

Yamnanyans were said to be darker than modern southern Europeans actually, despite they were hyper northern European genetically. It is strange indeed.

Pigmentation map by Coon

[Jana]

It's because Nordics lost their pigment in large parts so did modern Europeans . We were probably originally dark as West Asians or some Middle Eastern or Caucasians. It isn't super dark but still darker than modern Europeans on average.

Yamnaya were not like North Europeans AFAIK but North Euros and some other populations are the closest to it probably.

I mean they were zero neolithic/Southern European.

They were half North-East European, half West Asian/Kavkaz

[IncelSlayer]

Ilyrians formed in the Balkans. Those others were proto Ilyrians. We are Ilirs for sure. No dreams here. Both autosomally and by haplogroups since they actually formed in the Balkans, specifically the ones from Kosova, Macedonia and Albania. U mad ?

Enjoy your balding head , ' bro' , And your 50% East Euro DNA Mr Dacian.

illyrians was used by greeks for all the tribes in the east of the Adriatic sea, on the other hand its a culture that emerged from local central euro Halstatt culture and spread towards its neighbours including balkans were they've pushed your flat headed bell beaker ancestors in the mountains , even Coon makes the difference between the illyrian invaders and the dinarics natives, and altho mixing occured the corded element was still dominant everywere except in the mountainous areas.
But even so it doesn't matter what ydna illyrians had, because in look they were mainly cordeds and with the fact that culturally , and this includes their languge, albanians have nothing to do with them i suggest you took for your ethnogenesis elsewere and much later.

[ValarMorghulis]

It is Illyrian. Romans even stationed Illyrian soldiers to protect the border towards Gaul, where J2b2 is elevated in NW Italy.

KNOWLEDGE

[IncelSlayer]

Yamnanyans were said to be darker than modern southern Europeans actually, despite they were hyper northern European genetically. It is strange indeed.

They were predominant darker but as far as i'm aware they were half EHG(steppe) and half CHG not fully steppe like the IE people.
https://indo-european.eu/2018/05/the...nian-homeland/
Here's a new paper that pretty much confirms what i have seen saying so far, PIE=>CHG and on top of this it has a new hypothetis of exactly what i was saying so far Corded ware blonde steppe nordic peple did not come from yamnayas and therefore not from Bell Beakers.