J2b2-L283 and Ilyrian colonisation of the Balkans

[Wrong]

bell beaker from the north were autosomally and anthropologically nordo-armenoids, so look at keltic nordoids

Can't be Keltic Nordoids, as they are low-skulled(chamaecephalic) from CM admix, opposed to Nordoids(orthocephalic) and especially Armenoids/Dinaroids(hypsicephalic).

[ValarMorghulis]

Oh yh, I forgot that your grandmother had the same maternal ancestor as my mother . My mothers side are very light in terms of skin tone, eyes and hair, my mother is able to pass in England.

My grandmother also has reddish brown hair which supposedly was common according to descriptions of Thracians. I think you told me this mtdna was discovered in a Thracian woman.

[Carpatz]

That's true, this is why they are called Bell Beakers.Because they used their huge hook nose to beak at nuts, just like birds eat.This is why today albanians wear half a egg-shell as a hat, to remind them of their Bell Beaker past.

lmfao

[IncelSlayer]

Can't be Keltic Nordoids, as they are low-skulled(chamaecephalic) from CM admix, opposed to Nordoids(orthocephalic) and especially Armenoids/Dinaroids(hypsycephalic).

Talking about Bell Beakers, not Bell Beakers mixed with CM.btw CM's had the highest vaults.

[Kelmendasi]

My grandmother also has reddish brown hair which supposedly was common according to descriptions of Thracians. I think you told me this mtdna was discovered in a Thracian woman.

T1a1 was found in starcevo iirc but it may have been found in more recent samples from the area, i'll have to check again. I remember some guy linked it to IE peoples and Paleo-Balkanites at that

[Wrong]

Talking about Bell Beakers, not Bell Beakers mixed with CM.btw CM's had the highest vaults.

CM's were always described as low-skulled, with long, narrow craniums and short, wide faces.

Face wider than cranial width is usually an indication for CM

[ValarMorghulis]

CM's were always described as low-skulled, with long, narrow craniums and short, wide faces.

Face wider than cranial width is usually an indication for CM

Truth. I’m a Dinarcized CM. Block head power.

[IncelSlayer]

CM's were always described as low-skulled, with long, narrow craniums and short, wide faces.

Face wider than cranial width is usually an indication for CM

Nop, CM have huge full vaults and low set orbits, its one of the most specific trait, wheras dinarids have sloped foreheads and with medium to high orbits.

[Wrong]

Nop, CM have huge full vaults and low set orbits, its one of the most specific trait, wheras dinarids have sloped foreheads and with medium to high orbits.

Dinarics and Armenoids have the cranial highest vertex out of all sculls, hence hypsicephaly.


This CM scull has a face wider than crania:



It's scull is only higher than the Neanderthal sculls who were very low.

Widest skulls are Dinarics, and reduced CMs such as Borrebies and Alpines.

[IncelSlayer]

Dinarics and Armenoids have the cranial highest vertex out of all sculls, hence hypsicephaly.


This CM scull has a face wider than crania:



It's scull is only higher than the Neanderthal sculls who were very low.

Widest skulls are Dinarics, and reduced CMs such as Borrebies and Alpines.

it does not matter, you said low skulled and this is not true ,CM have large, broad foreheads, i don't care about upper height height, plain and simple Cromagnids have large and broad foreheads from front wheras dinarids have slopped small ones.

But the Montenegrin of distinctive type, concentrated in Old Montenegro, is a very tall, large-bodied man, with a large, full-vaulted head abbreviated at the rear

CM vs dinarid, its clear who has the biggest foreheads.