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Thread: J2b2-L283 and Ilyrian colonisation of the Balkans

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nato View Post
    Mate, these ancient samples aren't even available on gedmatch ? How much would modern Croats score of this Dalmatian sample ? Speaking of sample itself, which modern populations it's most similar to ?
    Thanks man. I hope you can answer to these questions.
    No modern people are particularly close to this sample. But closest being Greeks, Albanians, Bulgarians and Romanians.

    Albanian Greek Romanian Bulgarian Serbian Croatian Slovakian Ukrainian
    4.283653 4.355372 4.869727 4.878546 5.464576 7.439034 9.677720 11.400154

    If we presume proto-Slavs were similar to modern Belarusians then Croats score substantial amount of this Dalmatian BA sample

    "distance%=1.1812"

    Croatian

    Belarusian,52.6
    Balkans_BA,40.8
    Germany_Medieval,6.6

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trojet View Post
    Why are you making up these things when I know the situation better than you. The sample you're speaking of is from Istanbul, and not a Pontic Greek! He doesn't know if they came from elsewhere but suspects they may be originally from Greece.
    He is from turkey but his last name is greek? I said it suggest he is pontic greek. He likely doesnt know because somewhere along his lineage was probably raised into a turkish family, either as far back as when the ottomons first invaded, or more recently before the pontic greeks were genocided.

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    Thanks mate. Looks very realistic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taiguaitiaoghyrmmumin View Post
    He is from turkey but his last name is greek? I said it suggest he is pontic greek. He likely doesnt know because somewhere along his lineage was probably raised into a turkish family, either as far back as when the ottomons first invaded, or more recently before the pontic greeks were genocided.
    As I said, he has no known connection to Pontic Greeks, so please stop making things up just to suit your theories.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trojet View Post
    As I said, he has no known connection to Pontic Greeks, so please stop making things up just to suit your theories.
    His LAST NAME IS LITERALLY GREEK.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taiguaitiaoghyrmmumin View Post
    His LAST NAME IS LITERALLY GREEK.
    You just don't seem to get it. Even if his last name if Greek, that doesn't mean they came from Pontic Greeks (NE Anatolia). They could be from mainland Greece itself..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trojet View Post
    You just don't seem to get it. Even if his last name if Greek, that doesn't mean they came from Pontic Greeks (NE Anatolia). They could be from mainland Greece itself..
    Its unlikely they were from mainland greece recently. Its more like its pontic greek since most greeks from turkey are pontic. Pontic greeks come from Ionians anyways who were related to athenians in Ancient greece . Edit wrong. Pontics come from milesians who came from crete. But ionians were along the the coastal areas of turkey

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aren View Post
    If we presume proto-Slavs were similar to modern Belarusians then Croats score substantial amount of this Dalmatian BA sample

    "distance%=1.1812"

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    Belarusian,52.6
    Balkans_BA,40.8
    Germany_Medieval,6.6
    What exactly do you mean by this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Max Soldo View Post
    What exactly do you mean by this?
    That 40% of modern Croatian ancestry is from bronze age Paleo-Balkanites. Rest is Slavic and minor German.

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    No J2B2 has been found amongst Yamnaya samples. It most likely came with CHG rich migrants into the Balkans.

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