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Thread: NEW Chios, Greece GEDMatch result -- very close to South Italian

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    Default NEW Chios, Greece GEDMatch result -- very close to South Italian

    Eurogenes K15:
    # Population Percent
    1 East_Med 32.27
    2 West_Asian 17.36
    3 West_Med 17.13
    4 Atlantic 13.06
    5 Baltic 7.92
    6 North_Sea 7.81
    7 Red_Sea 3.87
    8 Sub-Saharan 0.28
    9 Oceanian 0.28
    10 Southeast_Asian 0.03

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 South_Italian 4.04
    2 Central_Greek 6.02
    3 East_Sicilian 6.73
    4 Italian_Jewish 8.48
    5 Sephardic_Jewish 8.81
    6 Italian_Abruzzo 8.9
    7 Ashkenazi 9.44
    8 Algerian_Jewish 9.67
    9 West_Sicilian 9.91
    10 Greek 11.07
    11 Cyprian 11.73
    12 Tunisian_Jewish 12.01
    13 Greek_Thessaly 12.35
    14 Libyan_Jewish 14.46
    15 Tuscan 14.63
    16 Lebanese_Muslim 15.6
    17 Turkish 17.06
    18 Syrian 17.34
    19 Bulgarian 18.92
    20 Samaritan 19.08

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 89.8% South_Italian + 10.2% Assyrian @ 3.34
    2 91.1% South_Italian + 8.9% Armenian @ 3.42
    3 91.1% South_Italian + 8.9% Iranian_Jewish @ 3.44
    4 91.2% South_Italian + 8.8% Georgian_Jewish @ 3.44
    5 90.8% South_Italian + 9.2% Lebanese_Druze @ 3.46
    6 91.6% South_Italian + 8.4% Kurdish_Jewish @ 3.5
    7 85.4% South_Italian + 14.6% Cyprian @ 3.55
    8 93% South_Italian + 7% Kurdish @ 3.6
    9 91.8% South_Italian + 8.2% Lebanese_Christian @ 3.63
    10 89.7% South_Italian + 10.3% Lebanese_Muslim @ 3.64
    11 96.2% South_Italian + 3.8% Abhkasian @ 3.72
    12 95.8% South_Italian + 4.2% Georgian @ 3.72
    13 91.6% South_Italian + 8.4% Turkish @ 3.73
    14 94.4% South_Italian + 5.6% Iranian @ 3.74
    15 93.6% South_Italian + 6.4% Azeri @ 3.76
    16 93.5% South_Italian + 6.5% Samaritan @ 3.82
    17 96.8% South_Italian + 3.2% North_Ossetian @ 3.84
    18 96.6% South_Italian + 3.4% Adygei @ 3.84
    19 96.4% South_Italian + 3.6% Kumyk @ 3.88
    20 93.9% South_Italian + 6.1% Syrian @ 3.88


    MDLP K23:
    # Population Percent
    1 Caucasian 40.67
    2 European_Early_Farmers 23.11
    3 European_Hunters_Gatherers 11.56
    4 Near_East 9.93
    5 South_Central_Asian 7.75
    6 North_African 4.66
    7 South_Indian 1.17


    Finished reading population data. 620 populations found.
    23 components mode.

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    Least-squares method.

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 Cretan_ @ 4.447671
    2 Italian_South_ @ 4.932337
    3 Sicilian_East_ @ 5.152622
    4 Romanian_Jew_ @ 5.477272
    5 Greek_Athens_ @ 5.504259
    6 Sicilian_Siracusa_ @ 5.674872
    7 Greek_Smyrna_ @ 5.831588
    8 Ashkenazi_Jew_ @ 5.865830
    9 Ashkenazi_ @ 5.879694
    10 Sicilian_Center_ @ 6.706636
    11 Sicilian_West_ @ 6.802528
    12 Greek_ @ 6.900437
    13 Sicilian_Agrigento_ @ 7.338099
    14 Greek_Islands_ @ 7.381737
    15 Sicilian_Trapani_ @ 7.666999
    16 French_Jew_ @ 7.717368
    17 Greek_Phokaia_ @ 8.098755
    18 Central_Greek_ @ 8.250425
    19 Maltese_ @ 8.842815
    20 Italian_Abruzzo_ @ 9.682274

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% Ashkenazi_ +50% Greek_Smyrna_ @ 2.390076

    Dodecad K12b:
    # Population Percent
    1 Caucasus 38
    2 Atlantic_Med 25.64
    3 North_European 13.94
    4 Southwest_Asian 12.41
    5 Gedrosia 6.77
    6 Northwest_African 2.67
    7 East_Asian 0.32
    8 South_Asian 0.26

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 4.3
    2 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 4.86
    3 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 5.04
    4 Sicilian (Dodecad) 5.38
    5 Greek (Dodecad) 7.53
    6 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 8.8
    7 C_Italian (Dodecad) 11.17
    8 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 12.49
    9 O_Italian (Dodecad) 14.12
    10 Cypriots (Behar) 15.01
    11 Tuscan (HGDP) 15.07
    12 Turkish (Dodecad) 16.49
    13 TSI30 (Metspalu) 16.5
    14 Turks (Behar) 19.17
    15 Lebanese (Behar) 19.99
    16 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 21.55
    17 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 21.94
    18 Druze (HGDP) 22.49
    19 N_Italian (Dodecad) 22.72
    20 Syrians (Behar) 22.99

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 75.2% Cypriots (Behar) + 24.8% Kent (1000Genomes) @ 1.47
    2 75.5% Cypriots (Behar) + 24.5% CEU30 (1000Genomes) @ 1.48
    3 75.5% Cypriots (Behar) + 24.5% English (Dodecad) @ 1.49
    4 76.1% Cypriots (Behar) + 23.9% British_Isles (Dodecad) @ 1.53
    5 75.7% Cypriots (Behar) + 24.3% Cornwall (1000Genomes) @ 1.57
    6 76.5% Cypriots (Behar) + 23.5% Irish (Dodecad) @ 1.59
    7 76% Cypriots (Behar) + 24% British (Dodecad) @ 1.6
    8 76.6% Cypriots (Behar) + 23.4% Orcadian (HGDP) @ 1.61
    9 76.7% Cypriots (Behar) + 23.3% Orkney (1000Genomes) @ 1.63
    10 74.2% Cypriots (Behar) + 25.8% Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) @ 1.65
    11 76.3% Cypriots (Behar) + 23.7% Argyll (1000Genomes) @ 1.69
    12 75% Cypriots (Behar) + 25% Dutch (Dodecad) @ 1.72
    13 72.4% Cypriots (Behar) + 27.6% French (Dodecad) @ 2
    14 88.3% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 11.7% Chechens (Yunusbayev) @ 2.02
    15 86.3% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 13.7% Kumyks (Yunusbayev) @ 2.08
    16 72.4% Cypriots (Behar) + 27.6% French (HGDP) @ 2.15
    17 51.6% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 48.4% Cypriots (Behar) @ 2.16
    18 61.6% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 38.4% Druze (HGDP) @ 2.2
    19 88.8% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 11.2% Lezgins (Behar) @ 2.22
    20 70.1% C_Italian (Dodecad) + 29.9% Georgia_Jews (Behar) @ 2.23

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    Along with ikariotes, chians are possibly the biggest outliers after rhodians

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    Do you have Thrace, Greece gedmatch results? But should be native to there. Because most of Thracian Greeks migrated from Anatolia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brennus dux gallorum View Post
    Along with ikariotes, chians are possibly the biggest outliers after rhodians
    I have found that apart from some more mainland-shifted examples, the closest islands genetically to southern Italy are Ikaria, Chios, and Kalymnos. People tend to say Crete but the proportions actually match better with the eastern Aegean islands.

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    Looks like an ordinary Greek result.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NarLFC View Post
    Looks like an ordinary Greek result.
    An ordinary islander yes. Not mainland.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sikeliot View Post
    An ordinary islander yes. Not mainland.
    Still Greek and very very likely looks typically Greek.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NarLFC View Post
    Still Greek and very very likely looks typically Greek.
    I think you're one of the few on here who actually "gets it" lol. Cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by NarLFC View Post
    Still Greek and very very likely looks typically Greek.
    So are you saying this person could genetically pass as mainland? I've yet to see anyone quite like this from there especially not in Thessaly or northward.

    You realize the islands are a small portion of the total population right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sikeliot View Post
    So are you saying this person could genetically pass as mainland? I've yet to see anyone quite like this from there especially not in Thessaly or northward.

    You realize the islands are a small portion of the total population right?
    Yes but you do understand that genotype=/= phenotype, right? Just because your Greek sample is a cunt hair closer to a S. Italian than Greek doesn't mean that the person isnt going to look Greek. I've seen all types of Greek photos on this board and they mostly have that common denominator in terms of phenotypes. Differences between Islanders and mainlanders is overly exaggerated to the point where people are starting to believe as if they're of a different ethnic group.

    Dont forget that genetic studies arent exactly 100% accurate. Tests are always updated and certain components that were masked by other components will eventually be revealed. I already saw a couple of updated Gedmatch results and they were noticeable different than their older results. Who is to say, a year or five years from now, there wont be more improvements made and new information discovered and old ones corrected?

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