NEW Chios, Greece GEDMatch result -- very close to South Italian

[kleenex]

I think the more pertinent question is, how are you so close to Balkanites? Dont you want to be close to Greeks before anyone else?

I'm trying to be objective. You have to understand the history of Greece from a genetic point of view. Mainlanders have Slavic admixture which shifts them genetically North. Islanders have minimal Slavic input which positions them SE of the mainland. It is what it is. It has nothing to do with who I "personally" relate to from a cultural point of view. Italians are equally distinct (regionally and genetically speaking) as Greeks. Are Armenians?

[FinalFlash]

I'm trying to be objective. You have to understand the history of Greece from a genetic point of view. Mainlanders have Slavic admixture which shifts them genetically North. Islanders have minimal Slavic input which positions them SE of the mainland. It is what it is. It has nothing to do with who I "personally" relate to from a cultural point of view. Italians are equally distinct (regionally and genetically speaking) as Greeks. Are Armenians?

Yeah Armenians do portray some genetic variations but what we all have in common is that we are related to other Armenians before anyone else really. I'm surprised an ancient and seemingly homogenous ethnicity like yours has this much variation tbh. I'm not counting Cypriots and Pontians as true Greeks strictly in the genetic sense of course.

[Tauromachos]

Yeah Armenians do portray some genetic variations but what we all have in common is that we are related to other Armenians before anyone else really. I'm surprised an ancient and seemingly homogenous ethnicity like yours has this much variation tbh.

They don't have that much variation

70% of modern Greeks ancestry comes roughly from a Mycanaean"Bronze Age source"

What you said applies to Armenians does apply to Greeks essentialy as well
Every Greek group is more related to another Greek group than to a Non Greek group.

An Albanian Tosk may be closer to a Thessalian than a Cretan is but he certainly not closer than an Epirote
is.

This is what i mean

[Sikeliot]

And the differences are mainly due to medieval migration patterns without the latter the Mainland Greeks would be in the same
cluster with South Italians and Islanders

They may end up in the Apulian/Trapani cluster but they do not have enough Near Eastern to end up in the Sicily/Calabria one.

[Tauromachos]

They may end up in the Apulian/Trapani cluster but they do not have enough Near Eastern to end up in the Sicily/Calabria one.

They wouldn't be in a different cluster than the Greek Islanders thats what the study itself says

Alos the study says the so called South Balkan and the South/Italian cluster are slightly different not enormous which concurs
with what i explained above

[Sikeliot]

They wouldn't be in a different cluster than the Greek Islanders thats what the study itself says

Alos the study says the so called South Balkan and the South/Italian cluster are slightly different not enormous which concurs
with what i explained above

Well some Aegean islanders are in the Apulia cluster. So maybe everyone in the East-Central Sicily/Calabria cluster are those who have excess Near Eastern, while the Trapani/Apulia cluster is where southern Italians and Greeks naturally "should" be if not admixed.