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    Quote Originally Posted by Pulsa Dinura View Post
    France occupied Lebanon for 23 years (1920 - 1943).

    Are those 23 years enough to make Lebanese Christians French?
    I think they mean from the Crusades
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anglojew View Post
    I think they mean from the Crusades
    In other words Franks, no French existed back then

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    Quote Originally Posted by brennus dux gallorum View Post
    In other words Franks, no French existed back then
    Francia. Same thing but yes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by brennus dux gallorum View Post
    In other words Franks, no French existed back then
    There were no franks during crusades, it was a nickname. Crusaders were french.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Visage pâle View Post
    There were no franks during crusades, it was a nickname. Crusaders were french.
    All across the Muslim world Crusaders were equated to Franks.

    When the Portuguese invaded the Sultanate of Malacca in Muslim Southeast Asia, the Sultan called the Portuguese crusaders "Franks". Despite the fact that they were Portuguese. Well that's probably due to the legacy of the crusades where most of the Outremer (Crusader States) were French speaking. Even the not-fully-French Normans which conquered England and converted Muslim Sicily, Spain, North Africa and the Levant, were also French speakers. It's just too bad that eventually, the French allied with the Ottomans just after when Constantinople was invaded. But the Spanish, just fresh from the Reconquista, stood up as replacement and opposed Muslim power, not only against the Ottomans but against Muslims the world over, from Morocco to the Moluccas, during the era of the Iberian Union.

    In a way, my country, the Philippines can also be a crusader-state of sorts since we were the only major Catholic nation in the Far East...

    An island of Christianity in a sea of infidels.


    And we were often at war with our Muslim and Buddhist neighbors too.

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    No, although some Maronites have minor French/North Italian like input as do most Muslims. Oddly enough, Greek Christians (both Greek Orthodox and Greek Catholics/Melkites), who were previously thought to have significant Greek input, turned out to be the ones who shift the most towards Arabia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haider View Post
    No, although some Maronites have minor French/North Italian like input as do most Muslims. Oddly enough, Greek Christians (both Greek Orthodox and Greek Catholics/Melkites), who were previously thought to have significant Greek input, turned out to be the ones who shift the most towards Arabia.
    Well. There used to be a lot of Europeans enslaved by Muslim raiders.


    Maybe the modern Arab Lebanese got their European descent from their European sex slave mothers?

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    Lebanese christians are technically sephardic-mizrahi jews (same canaanite derivatives):

    https://journals.plos.org/plosgeneti...l.pgen.1003316

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    Quote Originally Posted by Selurong View Post
    Well. There used to be a lot of Europeans enslaved by Muslim raiders.


    Maybe the modern Arab Lebanese got their European descent from their European sex slave mothers?
    No, as you can see in that map, the western European slaves went mostly to North Africa, and the Eastern European ones mostly to Turkey. The Lebanese Muslims/Druzes have elevated Western Euro though, not Eastern Euro.

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    The Christians, perhaps, have minor French influence in their DNA. I doubt it's significant.
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