Balkan solutions?

[Loki]

Considering our relations with Greeks, i wouldn't rely to much on the words of Dienekes. Besides, there is no prof of epirotes being Greeks.

Ancient Greeks did colonize a large part of the Balkan, though. They were the dominant culture in the region for thousands of years - and therefore could be expected to have had a lot of influence. Greeks and Albanians actually have a lot in common historically.

[Heretik]

I cannot emphasize more; redrawing boundaries in these lands is not only dangerous for the Balkan region but for the whole Europe. Leave things as they are...

[poiuytrewq0987]

Again, the Serbs in kosovo are recent immigrants and the northern part of kosovo its not only inhabited with Serbs, but Albanians also. Thus they have no right to the area, especially given they occupied it.

The Albanian identity didn't even exist on a grand scale back then. The Serbs came from White Serbia and what did we do with Kosovo? We colonized it, we built it, and thus it's ours now not yours. Just like South Africa was colonized by Afrikaners who built South Africa to what it is today.

Albanians are the original inhabitants, and ilirida was an Albanian province during ottoman empire, until you Slavs occupied it once the Turk left.

Ooh, ooh, original inhabitants! Who gives a damn who was the first ones there? The Greeks conquered parts of Illyria, completely by Romans and later Slavs. The modern Albanian identity only came into existence after the decline of the Eastern Roman Empire. On the other hand, Modern Greeks can claim to be related to ancient Greeks because there was a Greek identity back then, solid; unlike ancient inhabitants of Illyria who were largely made up of varying tribes.

So you think its perfectly ok if Germany decided to occupy vojvodina now and if they win against you, militarily, you have no problem in them having it?

Except Vojvodina has never been part of Germany whereas Kosovo has been part of our hearts and souls since time immemorial.

[Ushtari]

The Albanian identity didn't even exist on a grand scale back then. The Serbs came from White Serbia and what did we do with Kosovo? We colonized it, we built it, and thus it's ours now not yours. Just like South Africa was colonized by Afrikaners who built South Africa to what it is today.

Identity is based on language, traditions and culture, thus the Albanian/illyrian identity DID exist back then. And by your logic, kosovo belongs to Turks since they have ruled Kosovo longer then you.

Ooh, ooh, original inhabitants! Who gives a damn who was the first ones there? The Greeks conquered parts of Illyria, completely by Romans and later Slavs. The modern Albanian identity only came into existence after the decline of the Eastern Roman Empire.

Again, language, traditions and culture forms an identity. Im not less illyrian/albanian if i start to call myself Arnaut all of a sudden. And as i said, the areas you are occupying right now where Albanian provinces during ottoman empire.

Except Vojvodina has never been part of Germany whereas Kosovo has been part of our hearts and souls since time immemorial.

I dont see the difference, you Serbs migrated there in late 1200's, occupied it for 250 years, until the turks came and ruled it for 500 years. Then once they left, you occupied it again until we took it back

And no, kosovo is not the heart of Serbia, remember?

[poiuytrewq0987]

Identity is based on language, traditions and culture, thus the Albanian/illyrian identity DID exist back then. And by your logic, kosovo belongs to Turks since they have ruled Kosovo longer then you.

No, it didn't. It's laughable to even think Albanian identity, language, customs, etc were the same in ancient Illyria as they are today. LOL...

Again, language, traditions and culture forms an identity. Im not less illyrian/albanian if i start to call myself Arnaut all of a sudden. And as i said, the areas you are occupying right now where Albanian provinces during ottoman empire.

Oo, if a Bulgarian calls himself Thracian... I suppose he will magically have the rights to all of Thrace now.

I dont see the difference, you Serbs migrated there in late 1200's, occupied it for 250 years, until the turks came and ruled it for 500 years. Then once they left, you occupied it again until we took it back

And no, kosovo is not the heart of Serbia, remember?

Sure... go ahead and live in your Shiptary fairyland but too bad in reality Albania is a shit country with a shit miltiary once NATO falls apart... reckoning will be hell.

[Ushtari]

No, it didn't. It's laughable to even think Albanian identity, language, customs, etc were the same in ancient Illyria as they are today. LOL...

Damn you really start to remind me of that Monolith dude...

The Albanian language, traditions and culture descend from that of Illyrians.

Oo, if a Bulgarian calls himself Thracian... I suppose he will magically have the rights to all of Thrace now.

We only require the lands wich you Slavs have occupied from us, wich today is inhabited with Albanians.

Besides, Bulgarians are Slavs.

Sure... go ahead and live in your Shiptary fairyland but too bad in reality Albania is a shit country with a shit miltiary once NATO falls apart... reckoning will be hell.

I thought i made it clear wich the shittiest country in Europe is in this thread

[poiuytrewq0987]

Damn you really start to remind me of that Monolith dude...

The Albanian language, traditions and culture descend from that of Illyrians.

And pigs can fly too.

We only require the lands wich you Slavs have occupied from us, wich today is inhabited with Albanians.

LOL... there was no Albanian state back then that controlled such lands and thus they were fair game. Live with it.

Besides, Bulgarians are Slavs.

No, they are Thracians with Slavic influences.

I thought i made it clear wich the shittiest country in Europe is in this thread

Hahaha... I think 99.9% of Europe don't have the same opinion as yours.

[Ushtari]

And pigs can fly too.

Do you have any source wich contradicts my statement?

LOL... there was no Albanian state back then that controlled such lands and thus they were fair game. Live with it.

Please read this thread again.

No, they are Thracians with Slavic influences.

Where is those thracian influences in their language?

Hahaha... I think 99.9% of Europe don't have the same opinion as yours.

Opinions? those things i listed are pure facts.

[poiuytrewq0987]

Do you have any source wich contradicts my statement?

I'm not going to waste my time looking on the net to find links that contradicts your fantasy. If I say pigs can fly then it must be true.

Please read this thread again.

I'm not going to read any of your propaganda posts.

Where is those thracian influences in their language?

You might want to reobserve that statement.

Opinions? those things i listed are pure facts.

Facts in your world, sure.

[poiuytrewq0987]

Just Hellenize the Balkans and be done with it.