Haplogroup G

[Crimson Winds]

Absolutely NOT. Originally iranic peoples were nordid looking whites from East Europe and West Asia. The ancient iranic subrace:
http://humanphenotypes.net/ProtoNordid.html

"Keyser et al. (2009) confirmed a high frequencies of blonde hair and green eyes in early Kurgans."

Early kurgans were iranic graves. You can find their phenotype only in ex iranic areas: East Europe, Caucasus, Iran, Kurds, Central Asia.

Iranic tribes conquered the modern Iran and the local middle easternes adopted their language. Modern iranians are iranic speaker middle easternes.

Lol. I said exactly the same. Do you have mental issues?

[Blondie]

Jasz people are closely related to Ossetians, an Iranian speaking ethnicity having six times lesser r1a-z93 than their Turkic neighbors such Karachay and Balkars, even Circassians have this haplogroup three times more than Ossetians. Could you explain this?

Of course, Central Asia was full iranic area before turkic expansion. Iranic andronovo culture:







Scythia the great iranic empire:



r1a-z93:

"Proto-Indo-Iranian speakers, the people who later called themselves 'Aryans' in the Rig Veda and the Avesta, originated in the Sintashta-Petrovka culture (2100-1750 BCE), in the Tobol and Ishim valleys, east of the Ural Mountains. It was founded by pastoralist nomads from the Abashevo culture (2500-1900 BCE), ranging from the upper Don-Volga to the Ural Mountains, and the Poltavka culture (2700-2100 BCE), extending from the lower Don-Volga to the Caspian depression.

The Sintashta-Petrovka culture, associated with R1a-Z93 and its subclades, was the first Bronze Age advance of the Indo-Europeans west of the Urals, opening the way to the vast plains and deserts of Central Asia to the metal-rich Altai mountains. The Aryans quickly expanded over all Central Asia, from the shores of the Caspian to southern Siberia and the Tian Shan, through trading, seasonal herd migrations, and looting raids.

Horse-drawn war chariots seem to have been invented by Sintashta people around 2100 BCE, and quickly spread to the mining region of Bactria-Margiana (modern border of Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, Tajikistan and Afghanistan). Copper had been extracted intensively in the Urals, and the Proto-Indo-Iranians from Sintashta-Petrovka were exporting it in huge quantities to the Middle East. They appear to have been attracted by the natural resources of the Zeravshan valley for a Petrovka copper-mining colony was established in Tugai around 1900 BCE, and tin was extracted soon afterwards at Karnab and Mushiston. Tin was an especially valued resource in the late Bronze Age, when weapons were made of copper-tin alloy, stronger than the more primitive arsenical bronze. In the 1700's BCE, the Indo-Iranians expanded to the lower Amu Darya valley and settled in irrigation farming communities (Tazabagyab culture). By 1600 BCE, the old fortified towns of Margiana-Bactria were abandoned, submerged by the northern steppe migrants. The group of Central Asian cultures under Indo-Iranian influence is known as the Andronovo horizon, and lasted until 800 BCE."
https://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplo...1a_Y-DNA.shtml

Turks originated from East Asia, when they conquered Central Asia they assimilated the local iranic population, that's why lot of central asian turks had iranic y dna.

[Blondie]

Lol. I said exactly the same. Do you have mental issues?

Don't get personal! I was normal with you.

[Crimson Winds]

Of course, Central Asia was full iranic area before turkic expansion. Iranic andronovo culture:







Scythia the great iranic empire:



r1a-z93:

"Proto-Indo-Iranian speakers, the people who later called themselves 'Aryans' in the Rig Veda and the Avesta, originated in the Sintashta-Petrovka culture (2100-1750 BCE), in the Tobol and Ishim valleys, east of the Ural Mountains. It was founded by pastoralist nomads from the Abashevo culture (2500-1900 BCE), ranging from the upper Don-Volga to the Ural Mountains, and the Poltavka culture (2700-2100 BCE), extending from the lower Don-Volga to the Caspian depression.

The Sintashta-Petrovka culture, associated with R1a-Z93 and its subclades, was the first Bronze Age advance of the Indo-Europeans west of the Urals, opening the way to the vast plains and deserts of Central Asia to the metal-rich Altai mountains. The Aryans quickly expanded over all Central Asia, from the shores of the Caspian to southern Siberia and the Tian Shan, through trading, seasonal herd migrations, and looting raids.

Horse-drawn war chariots seem to have been invented by Sintashta people around 2100 BCE, and quickly spread to the mining region of Bactria-Margiana (modern border of Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, Tajikistan and Afghanistan). Copper had been extracted intensively in the Urals, and the Proto-Indo-Iranians from Sintashta-Petrovka were exporting it in huge quantities to the Middle East. They appear to have been attracted by the natural resources of the Zeravshan valley for a Petrovka copper-mining colony was established in Tugai around 1900 BCE, and tin was extracted soon afterwards at Karnab and Mushiston. Tin was an especially valued resource in the late Bronze Age, when weapons were made of copper-tin alloy, stronger than the more primitive arsenical bronze. In the 1700's BCE, the Indo-Iranians expanded to the lower Amu Darya valley and settled in irrigation farming communities (Tazabagyab culture). By 1600 BCE, the old fortified towns of Margiana-Bactria were abandoned, submerged by the northern steppe migrants. The group of Central Asian cultures under Indo-Iranian influence is known as the Andronovo horizon, and lasted until 800 BCE."
https://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplo...1a_Y-DNA.shtml

Turks originated from East Asia, when they conquered Central Asia they assimilated the local iranic population, that's why lot of central asian turks had iranic y dna.

Even if it is true, Turks still must have less R1a-Z93 than their Iranic neighbors, by the way, I am comparing Ossetians with Karachay, not Kyrgyz, %6 cannot be the source of %36!

[Crimson Winds]

Don't get personal! I was normal with you.

Neither I. Take that as an insult to your comment, not you. Sorry if you are offended.

[Blondie]

Even if it is true, Turks still must have less R1a-Z93 than their Iranic neighbors, by the way, I am comparing Ossetians with Karachay, not Kyrgyz, %6 cannot be the source of %36!

Not necessarily. Hungarians are ugric speaker indo-europeans with no genetic relations with ugrics and never have been. French are latin speaker celts, germanics, their origin is not latin. Did you heard about language adoptation? Turks were very successful warriors who dominated Central Asia, East Europe in early medieval age, lot ot ethnicity adopted their language.

[Crimson Winds]

Not necessarily. Hungarians are ugric speaker indo-europeans with no genetic relations with ugrics and never have been. French are latin speaker celts, germanics, their origin is not latin. Did you heard about language adoptation? Turks were very successful warriors who dominated Central Asia, East Europe in early medieval age, lot ot ethnicity adopted their language.

You got me. Ubermench Mongol women defeated and raped R1a-Z93 Aryans and gave birth to Turks, but they are weakened after mixing them so males started revolution and made Turks patriarchal.

[Blondie]

You got me. Ubermench Mongol women defeated and raped R1a-Z93 Aryans and gave birth to Turks, but they are weakened after mixing them so males started revolution and made Turks patriarchal.

Is rape your pride? What an primitive mentality....

[Crimson Winds]

Is rape your pride? What an primitive mentality....

I am not serious. Even if I, it is not possible for me to have pride in this due to being neither Turkic or Iranian. You made it personal in a much more offensive and dishonest manner after compaining about.

[FilhoV]

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