Haplogroup G

[happycow]

Yeah I score 1-2% mongoloid depending on the calculator. I think it was PuntDNAL that modeled me as 98% Jordanian and 2% Mongolian.

I was told my paternal haplogroup is actually quite rare for the middle east and according to this link it was found in England and Italy. Roman ancestor?
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...GwEyc/htmlview

G2a2b2a1a1c1a1b2 - Z6032
England, Italy, Sardinian Italy

Here's the yfull site which also shows that Z6032 was found in Italy

https://www.yfull.com/tree/G-Z724/
https://www.yfull.com/tree/G-YP4752/

[Blondie]

do you have iranic fetish or something

I'm hungarian, so partly iranic.

[Blondie]

I guess everywhere is Iranic except Iran according to you.

Iranic peoples (aryans) were white nordid looking europeans, iranians are middle easternes.

[Kaspias]

I'm hungarian, so partly iranic.

[Tschaikisten]

Yes it is, and that's about all I know about it lol

Your father's branch belongs to L497>Z1816>CTS4803 which is mostly restricted to North and Western Europe, unlike mine clade (Z1816>L43>...) who have more central/southern Europen branches. L497 is branch of G2a which was been one of main haplogroup of Neolithic European farmers. Some G2a clades were destroyed after Indo-European invasion, but L497 was most sucesful and it continued to exist. There is a good chance that whole L497 was absorbed by proto-Celtic populations in Hallstat region after which they started expanding to other parts of Europe.

[Blondie]

Hungarian jász peoples are more close to original iranic peoples than iranians:



















"The Jasz people were a nomadic Sarmatian (or Scythian) tribe which settled in the medieval Kingdom of Hungary during the 13th century[1] and are generally thought to be of Ossetian origin originally speaking a dialect of the Ossetic language. The dialect is extinct and members of the Jász usually speak Hungarian. "
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jasz_people

Hungarians and iranic peoples originated from same culture/area:

"During the 4th millennium BC, the Uralic-speaking peoples who were living in the central and southern regions of the Urals split up. Some dispersed towards the west and northwest and came into contact with Iranian speakers who were spreading northwards.[35] From at least 2000 BC onwards, the Ugrian speakers became distinguished from the rest of the Uralic community, of which the ancestors of the Magyars, being located farther south, were the most numerous. Judging by evidence from burial mounds and settlement sites, they interacted with the Indo-Iranian Andronovo culture.[36]"

"Anthropologically, the type of Magyars of the conquest phase shows similarity to that of the Andronovo people,[82] in particular of the Sarmatian groups around the southern Urals.[83] Excavations of several Sarmatians showed that they belong to Haplogroup G2a, J1, J2 and R1a-Z93. "
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hungarians

"Most researchers associate the Andronovo horizon with early Indo-Iranian languages, though it may have overlapped the early Uralic-speaking area at its northern fringe.[3]"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andronovo_culture

"Research about the ancient Hungarian religion has led to that it was a form of Tengrism, a shamanic religion common among the early Turkic and Mongolian people, that was influenced by Zoroastrianism from the Persians and Hinduism and Buddhism whom the Huns and Avars had encountered during their westward migration. Another theory ties the religion to that of the Huns and Scythians of Central Asia due to similar or even identical legends to the Hungarian origin myth. "
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hungarian_mythology

Hungarian rulers had r1a-z93 iranic genetic:
https://link.springer.com/article/10...520-018-0609-7

Hungarians have iranic origins, like it or not.

[Crimson Winds]

Iranic peoples (aryans) were white nordid looking europeans, iranians are middle easternes.

So you believe Iranic peoples were made middle easterners Iranian but themselves became east or north European, Caucasian or Turkic. Good weed.

[Kaspias]

Hungarian jász peoples are more close to original iranic peoples than iranians:



















"The Jasz people were a nomadic Sarmatian (or Scythian) tribe which settled in the medieval Kingdom of Hungary during the 13th century[1] and are generally thought to be of Ossetian origin originally speaking a dialect of the Ossetic language. The dialect is extinct and members of the Jász usually speak Hungarian. "
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jasz_people

Hungarians and iranic peoples originated from same culture/area:

"During the 4th millennium BC, the Uralic-speaking peoples who were living in the central and southern regions of the Urals split up. Some dispersed towards the west and northwest and came into contact with Iranian speakers who were spreading northwards.[35] From at least 2000 BC onwards, the Ugrian speakers became distinguished from the rest of the Uralic community, of which the ancestors of the Magyars, being located farther south, were the most numerous. Judging by evidence from burial mounds and settlement sites, they interacted with the Indo-Iranian Andronovo culture.[36]"

"Anthropologically, the type of Magyars of the conquest phase shows similarity to that of the Andronovo people,[82] in particular of the Sarmatian groups around the southern Urals.[83] Excavations of several Sarmatians showed that they belong to Haplogroup G2a, J1, J2 and R1a-Z93. "
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hungarians

"Most researchers associate the Andronovo horizon with early Indo-Iranian languages, though it may have overlapped the early Uralic-speaking area at its northern fringe.[3]"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andronovo_culture

"Research about the ancient Hungarian religion has led to that it was a form of Tengrism, a shamanic religion common among the early Turkic and Mongolian people, that was influenced by Zoroastrianism from the Persians and Hinduism and Buddhism whom the Huns and Avars had encountered during their westward migration. Another theory ties the religion to that of the Huns and Scythians of Central Asia due to similar or even identical legends to the Hungarian origin myth. "
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hungarian_mythology

Hungarian rulers had r1a-z93 iranic genetic:
https://link.springer.com/article/10...520-018-0609-7

Hungarians have iranic origins, like it or not.

[Blondie]

So you believe Iranic peoples were made middle easterners Iranian but themselves became east or north European, Caucasian or Turkic. Good weed.

Absolutely NOT. Originally iranic peoples were nordid looking whites from East Europe and West Asia. The ancient iranic subrace:
http://humanphenotypes.net/ProtoNordid.html

"Keyser et al. (2009) confirmed a high frequencies of blonde hair and green eyes in early Kurgans."

Early kurgans were iranic graves. You can find their phenotype only in ex iranic areas: East Europe, Caucasus, Iran, Kurds, Central Asia.

Iranic tribes conquered the modern Iran and the local middle easternes adopted their language. Modern iranians are iranic speaker middle easternes.

[Crimson Winds]

Hungarian rulers had r1a-z93 iranic genetic:
https://link.springer.com/article/10...520-018-0609-7

Hungarians have iranic origins, like it or not.

Jasz people are closely related to Ossetians, an Iranian speaking ethnicity having six times lesser r1a-z93 than their Turkic neighbors such Karachay and Balkars, even Circassians have this haplogroup three times more than Ossetians. Could you explain this?