Spain vs United Kingdom in the war who would win?

[Ruggery]

UK and this is not even debatable.
Spain refuted to reach nuclear weapons.
Nothing else to add.

But if the combat does not have nuclear weapons?, In addition if Spain also carries nuclear weapons, I do not think the scenario changes much.

[Cristiano viejo]

But if the combat does not have nuclear weapons?, In addition if Spain also carries nuclear weapons, I do not think the scenario changes much.

Today the wars have nothing to do with bravery but with equipment, and Spain since many decades ago (since the death of Franco to be exact) became a country where demilitarization is debated among our politicians constantly.

It resembles a bit the example of Germany.

[♥ Lily ♥]

Lol... are you serious?! The UK has the world's oldest and most elite special air forces (second to none and upon which all other special forces in the world are based,) ranks in the world's top 10 militaries, is a nuclear power, has the world's best trained military, and the US is our First Ally, along with the Commonwealth nations of Canada, Australia, NZ, etc.

I didn't see the Spanish military even bother to intervene when the UK sent a warship (HMS Westminster) to Spain as a warning to them and to guard the British Overseas Territory of Gibraltar in recent years, after some hostile conflicts broke-out between the UK and Spanish government over Gibraltar. The Spanish government have since backed down.

Their Intelligence Agencies are no match for the elite intelligence agencies in the Five Eyes nations. Spain isn't even a powerful G7 nation.

I think the Spanish learned their lesson after their crushing defeat of the Spanish Armada.

[Cristiano viejo]

Lol... are you serious?! The UK has the world's most elite special forces (second to none,) ranks in the world's top 10 militaries, is a nuclear power, has the world's best trained military, and the US is our First Ally, along with the Commonwealth nations.

Elite special forces mean nothing. Nuclear weapons and investments in army do.

I didn't see the Spanish military even bother to intervene when the UK spent a warship (HMS Westminster) to guard Gibraltar in recent years, after some conflicts broke out between the UK and Spanish government over Gibraltar. The Spanish government have since backed down.

Lefties governments are weak, not our fault.

I think the Spanish learned their lesson after their crushing defeat of the Spanish Armada.

Do a favor to yourself and learn some of history. Storms crushed the Spanish Armada, and that war was won by Spain. The Spanish Armada was only a chapter of a war where Spanish defeated English very easily https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-...%E2%80%931604)

In fact, it were English who learned the lesson and after they started that war, it were themselves who asked for the peace

[Longbowman]

No offence to Spain but assuming an even playing field it would not be a close fight. Even if the troops were of equal quality our armed services outnumber and outgun theirs enormously.

Obviously it's a hypothetical and we are allies. I would hate going to war with Spain.

[Cristiano viejo]

No offence to Spain but assuming an even playing field it would not be a close fight. Even if the troops were of equal quality our armed services outnumber and outgun theirs enormously.

That scenario was the same in all and every war that Spain defeated British

[Ruggery]

Today the wars have nothing to do with bravery but with equipment, and Spain since many decades ago (since the death of Franco to be exact) became a country where demilitarization is debated among our politicians constantly.

It resembles a bit the example of Germany.

And what about the legionaries maybe they do not do much good?

[Longbowman]

That scenario was the same in all and every war that Spain defeated British

1) We haven't fought each other for centuries
2) Example?
3) Britain has destroyed Spain (especially on the waters) despite being heavily outgunned before. I think our most recent fight was Trafalgar (many Spanish ships under the French flag) and we won handily.

Either way you suffer, as you say, today, from post-fascist fear of the military - same as Argentina, Germany, etc. the UK does not, although of course we don't have the money to maintain the forces we once maintained. So our troops are more experienced, more numerous and better equipped than yours. Not a reflection on national character, of course.

[Cristiano viejo]

And what about the legionaries maybe they do not do much good?

The Legionarios are the bravest part of the Spanish Army by far.
But the problem as I have said, is the lack of investments of our governments in the last decades. It happens exactly the same: every year the expenditure items for military spending is lower, while I think it is the opposite in UK.

[Cristiano viejo]

1) We haven't fought each other for centuries
2) Example?
3) Britain has destroyed Spain (especially on the waters) despite being heavily outgunned before. I think our most recent fight was Trafalgar (many Spanish ships under the French flag) and we won handily. our troops are more experienced, more numerous and better equipped than yours. Not a reflection on national character, of course.

English-British were more experienced, more numerous and better equipped than the Spanish always, or almost always.
Examples, you say?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-...%E2%80%931604) (this could be the only war where Spanish were superior in experience and better equipped than British, and not even)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-...%E2%80%931630)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spain_...olutionary_War
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Britis...he_River_Plate

Oh yes, we defeated us in Trafalgar, where the most part of the French-Spanish army was French