Spain vs United Kingdom in the war who would win?

[♥ Lily ♥]

Elite special forces mean nothing. Nuclear weapons and investments in army do.


Lefties governments are weak, not our fault.


Do a favor to yourself and learn some of history. Storms crushed the Spanish Armada, and that war was won by Spain. The Spanish Armada was only a chapter of a war where Spanish defeated English very easily https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-...%E2%80%931604)

In fact, it were English who learned the lesson and after they started that war, it were themselves who asked for the peace

Special Forces are very important for jumping high distances from the sky, as well as being able to discreetly low-jump to gather intelligence. It was our special forces that played a major role in helping to defeat Germany during WW2.

4:57 = superman flying through the sky.








You need to learn some history mate. The moon and the sea tides also helped to defeat the Armada.... which the English had good knowledge of.... especially one night when the English sailors sacrificed one of our ships by setting it on fire... and letting it sail with the tide straight into the Spanish Armada whilst they slept... which broke-up their formation.

The Spanish ships were far too large and unpractical for the choppy and rough conditions and narrow waters of the English Channel Sea.

They had no experience of navigating our seas and ended-up getting some of their large ships stuck in the shallow waters of the Solent. The English ships were smaller and faster and much more suitable to navigate the conditions of the English Channel Sea.

[♥ Lily ♥]

[Longbowman]

English-British were more experienced, more numerous and better equipped than the Spanish always, or almost always.
Examples, you say?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-...%E2%80%931604) (this could be the only war where Spanish were superior in experience and better equipped than British, and not even)

fue un empate

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-...%E2%80%931630)

fue un empate

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spain_...olutionary_War

vaya no puedes usar esto como ejemplo mientras diciendo que trafalgar no cuenta porque fuisteis el minoritario de las tropas involucradas

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Britis...he_River_Plate

para ti:

https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toma_de_Gibraltar_(1704)
https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sitio_de_Gibraltar_(1727)
https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sitio_...ar_(1779-1783)

[Marinus]

If he is right, but if Spain decides to close the Gibraltar gate, what will the United Kingdom do?

If they invaded Gibraltar?

Not much can be done, while the UK is quite a lot stronger than Spain nowadays, Spain would have home advantage, they wouldn't need to move their army anywhere outside their borders and would be within their own airspace. The logistics for mobilising a full invansion would hinder the UK's response.

The UK wouldn't need to use military might though, NATO would automatically side against the Spanish. It starts with diplomatic and economic sanctions, which are enough to crumble the country from within, if Spain decides not to return Gibraltar, then it would be the might of NATO knocking on their doors. While Spain could take Gibraltar for a few days, they wouldn't be able to keep a hold of it.

If the fight happened on neutral ground, then odds would favour the British due to better trained and experienced personnel, and much more power projection capabilities.

[Marinus]

Also it's worth a note that I'm half English and half Spanish (3/8 really), and such a conflict would be exceptionally painful for me, I have family and property in Spain.

[♥ Lily ♥]

After Spain's national tragedy and the crushing and humiliating defeat of their armada (no Spanish Catholic Inquistion for Protestant England )... the British then took over the Spanish to have the world's largest and greatest empire.

Gibraltar is still British Territory.

It's funny because the English frequently sent our pirates to loot the Spanish ships in the Caribbean, but in modern times our Royal Navy actually helped to save a Spanish vessel from being looted.

[Selurong]

Lily ;5442342]After Spain's national tragedy and the crushing and humiliating defeat of their armada (no Spanish Catholic Inquistion for Protestant England)... the British then took over the Spanish to have the world's largest and greatest empire.

Gibraltar is still British Territory.

Lols the British prepared the even larger English counter Armada to invade Spain but the Spanish destroyed that.

Also, Free Catholic Northern Ireland!

Catholic Ireland is now richer than their once Protestant Masters in the UK. Ireland has a larger GDP per Capita than the UK. You English should return Northern Ireland back to the Irish.

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[Longbowman]

Lols the British prepared the even larger English counter Armada to invade Spain but the Spanish destroyed that.

Also, Free Catholic Northern Ireland!

Catholic Ireland is now richer than their once Protestant Masters in the UK. Ireland has a larger GDP per Capita than the UK. You English should return Northern Ireland back to the Irish.

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but Catholic Philippines is still poorer than Shinto Japan. Sad!

Free the Moros, btw.

[Selurong]

but Catholic Philippines is still poorer than Shinto Japan. Sad!

Free the Moros, btw.

Lels.

Japan has a debt to GDP ratio of 230%. They may look rich but it's all debt.

In contrast, even though our economy is smaller our debt to GDP is only 34%

I can't say the same thing for the British who's economy is almost 90% drowned in debt.





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[Hithaeglir]

The UK probably.The US will fuck Spain if this ever happened.