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    I've found this neat video which shows the text and sound of the old Albanian language (gheg), taken from oldest published book in Albanian the Meshari by Gjon Buzuku, an Albanian catholic priest from Shestani.

    There are various spelling and word differences.

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    On Balkans, anything after 7th century A.D. is considered middle ages not "ancient" or "OLD".

    I for example think "old" only when we talk about 500 B.C. - 500 A.D.

    Some scripture from 12th century A.D. is like a recent to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bosniensis View Post
    On Balkans, anything after 7th century A.D. is considered middle ages not "ancient" or "OLD".

    I for example think "old" only when we talk about 500 B.C. - 500 A.D.

    Some scripture from 12th century A.D. is like a recent to me.
    Sure, but I would consider 500+ years a pretty long time, so I would consider this old. It should go like this Modern ---> Old---> Ancient, with sub-levels in between.
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    Text excerpt from the Meshari. Differences are very visible.

    U Donih Gjoni,biri hi Bdek(1) Buzukut, tue u kujtuom(2) shumė herė se gluha jonėh
    nukė kish gjaa tė endigluom(3) ensėh shkruomit shenjtė(4), ensėh dashunit(5) sėh
    botėsė sanėh(6), desha me u fėdigunėh(7) pėr saa mujtah meh ditunėh, meh zdritunė
    pak mendetė e atyneh qi t'eh endiglonjinėh, pėr seh ata tėh mundėh mernėh(8) saa hi
    naltė e hi mujtunė(9) e hi pėrmishėriershim(10) anshtė Zotynė atyneh qi tah duonė em
    gjithėh zemėrė. U lus enbas sodi maa shpesh tė vinih em kishėh, pėrseh ju kini meh
    gjegjunė(11) ordhėninė e Tinėzot. E atėh nėh enbaroshi(12), Zotynėh tėh ketėh mishėrier
    enbii juu, e atah qi u munduonėh dierie tash maa mos u mondonjėnėh.E ju t'ini tėh
    zgjiedhunitė e Tinėh Zot, e pėrherė Zotynė kaa meh klenėh me juu: ju tueh endiekunė tėh
    dėrejtėnė e tueh lanė tėh shtrenbėnė; e kėta(13) ju tueh baam,Zotynė ka me shtuom endėr
    juu,se tėh korėtė tajh(14) tėh englatetėh(15) dierie ensėh vjelash, e tė vjelėtė dierie ensė
    enbiellash.

    E u' maa due tėh enbaronj vepėrėnė teme, Tinė Zot tueh pėrqyem. Endėh vjetėt MDLIV
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    anėt mėh duhė meh shėrbyem. E tash u jam enfalėh gjithėveh, e lutėni Tinėh Zonėh endeh pėr
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    Very interesting sound it has, I can understand pretty well actually
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    Why the hell I think it sounds a bit like Portugese?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teutone View Post
    Why the hell I think it sounds a bit like Portugese?
    It kind of does but it has a lot to do with the way this guy pronounced it, and I think he got some words wrong with the pronunciation.
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    It doesn't seem to have changed that much.

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    Are you kidding me ? How is this old ? It sounds like regural Albanian .. .what a load of bullshit..

    Except of the words that are not used anymore..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dukagjini View Post
    Sure, but I would consider 500+ years a pretty long time, so I would consider this old.
    Indeed. We in Spain call the language of 500 years ago "castellano antiguo" (old Castilian).

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