West Africans got Eurasian ancestry

[Lugh]

Population
ANE 12.32
ASE 2.34
WHG-UHG 45.53
East_Eurasian 1.78
West_African 5.12
East_African 21.23
ENF 11.68



^ what a weird test...

I assume that "East african" on this test is actually west african?? and my ENF is probably my berber? i dont know it looks very odd

Davidski states the main purpose of that test is to estimate ANE ancestry, so the other components are just junk really...
http://bga101.blogspot.com/2014/09/e...es-ane-k7.html

"Obviously, there are also six other ancestral components in this test (hence the K7 in the name). They're basically byproducts of me trying to isolate ANE, and don't necessarily mean anything."

That being said, I am of the opinion that such calculators are inaccurate for determining actual ANE ancestry. NW Europeans for example who can successfully be modelled as 50% Yamnaya on nMonte/qpadm score only ~16-17% ANE. EHG who can be modelled as 70% ANE in nMonte/qpadm come out at only 50-55% ANE on the Basal Rich K7 (which is a similar calculator made by David). So really, don't take any "ancient components" on GEDmatch tests seriously.

[Congolese Rice]

Davidski states the main purpose of that test is to estimate ANE ancestry, so the other components are just junk really...
http://bga101.blogspot.com/2014/09/e...es-ane-k7.html

"Obviously, there are also six other ancestral components in this test (hence the K7 in the name). They're basically byproducts of me trying to isolate ANE, and don't necessarily mean anything."

That being said, I am of the opinion that such calculators are inaccurate for determining actual ANE ancestry. NW Europeans for example who can successfully be modelled as 50% Yamnaya on nMonte/qpadm score only ~16-17% ANE. EHG who can be modelled as 70% ANE in nMonte/qpadm come out at only 50-55% ANE on the Basal Rich K7 (which is a similar calculator made by David). So really, don't take any "ancient components" on GEDmatch tests seriously.

Ok makes sense, i was already wondering why this test gave me 21% east african. makes sense now i guess. I assume that i am only 12.32% ANE then, lol. Not very high up.

[Cosmo Zero]

Not really, everything he wrote about Afalou was wrong. He was wrong in associating Afalou with Upper Paleolithic Europeans, genetically they were nothing alike; He was wrong on emphasizing the Neanderthal character of Afalou, they were actually less Neanderthal than Eurasians; he was wrong in classifying Afalou as Caucasoid: half of the Iberomaurusian genepool comes from a pre Eurasian bottleneck source (ANA).

not really, coon wasn't wrong about taforalt being caucasoid or upper paleothic european like ,he's work was strictly concluded in respect of pure anthropological / morphological evidence , i mean taforalt / afalou may had some minor neanderthal like archaic influence but still nothing special.

ANA (Para-Eurasian) -“Deep” ancestry- diverged from other non-Sub-Saharan Africans before the Basal Eurasians did, this Deep ancestry group, which nevertheless forms a clade with the new Eurasian lineages (Basal and non-Basal), does not clearly seem to have undergone the bottleneck event according to this paper.

so if ANA is anything it's basal to basal Eurasian but with no bottleneck effect (aka more population numbers) , whatever basal Eurasian or pre-OOA-eurasian looked like , ANA certainly looked like that too.

in this paper laziradis have successfully model natufians as 27% taforalt ,which means Ancestral North African contributes between 5%-20% to MENA and something like 3%-9% to Europe via natufians proxy.

it's also fair to suggest that Y-haplogroup E can now be associated safely either with Basal eurasian or ancestral north african, which makes E1b the result of foreign paternal admixture into sub-saharan populations.

[Cosmo Zero]

Europeans are not pure, East Europeans often have some Mongoloid admixture and at times South Asian
North Europeans have Siberian admixture especially Scandos
South Europeans have some Mideastern and SSA admixture like especially West Meds

it seems ANA deep ancestry will surely absorb much (if not all) of the pseudo-ssa minor ancestry detected in some europeans and native indigenous north Africans which was wrongfully counted as ssa-proper.

[KMack]

Can you guys just chill out, who was fucking who first.

[Zuh]

This is all getting weird and complicated, amerindians have westeuroasian, ssa have westeuroasian etc. i prefer if we divide the races by traditionally concept.

i dont know who writes this but this stinks of eurocentrism basically there is no pure race except europeans and some certain westasians.

Maybe the world was once white how you ever thought about that?

[Bellbeaking]

Awsome paper

[Imperator Biff]

Davidski states the main purpose of that test is to estimate ANE ancestry, so the other components are just junk really...
http://bga101.blogspot.com/2014/09/e...es-ane-k7.html

"Obviously, there are also six other ancestral components in this test (hence the K7 in the name). They're basically byproducts of me trying to isolate ANE, and don't necessarily mean anything."

That being said, I am of the opinion that such calculators are inaccurate for determining actual ANE ancestry. NW Europeans for example who can successfully be modelled as 50% Yamnaya on nMonte/qpadm score only ~16-17% ANE. EHG who can be modelled as 70% ANE in nMonte/qpadm come out at only 50-55% ANE on the Basal Rich K7 (which is a similar calculator made by David). So really, don't take any "ancient components" on GEDmatch tests seriously.

Even Davidski himself states on the eurogenes store page the K7 isn’t a completely accurate measure of ANE ancestry.
His Global 25 is pretty accurate though.