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    Quote Originally Posted by Kelmendasi View Post
    Say there was a Greek that had converted to Islam but still considered themselves Greek, would you not view them as a Greek?
    He would still be Greek, though noone would be happy to hear the news. However, if a Turk with a DNA test and some story about how his grandpa converted to Islam for this or that reason applied for a Greek passport he would get laughed out of the country.

    I would view that person as a traitor and also of low intelligence.
    Being Greek is an experienced grounded into nation, not consumption.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Georgia View Post
    No,I would view the convert as a traitor.

    Look at this stupid clown for instance,she married an Arab,converted to Islam and since then she has been doing everything in her power to spread Islam in Greece.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KqEsrKsvsKE
    Not even if the person was more secular and not extreme? In my opinion not accepting someone of your ethnicity based on religion is kinda weird, no offence. But you could argue that I have this view as i'm an Albanian and we don't have close links to religion.
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    The Albanians, these tigers of mountain wars ... have as their religion rebellion. Even their worst warrior is one of the strongest and bravest on the battle-field, just as if he was a knight on the legendary horse. But he has no horse, nor proper weapons for battle. Instead of the horse, he has a lance which strikes as lightning, he has spears who's points are full of posion as the sting of hornets, he has also a wooden bow with some arrows. Furthermore, he is stronger than iron ...

    - Ibn Kemal, Historian of the Turkish court during Skanderbeg's war against the Turks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kelmendasi View Post
    Not even if the person was more secular and not extreme? In my opinion not accepting someone of your ethnicity based on religion is kinda weird, no offence. But you could argue that I have this view as i'm an Albanian and we don't have close links to religion.
    You can be a Christian of any denomination,an atheist,a pagan,a Buddhist or a Hindu and be a Greek...but never a Muslim.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bosniensis View Post
    Because they would have to count those Greeks in Anatolia .. who are guess what... more numerous than entire mainland Greeks.

    Truth is Muslim Greeks speak Turkish language, so that helped them a lot to build that "Greeks were never Muslims" thing... as if WE (other Balkanites) never existed.... or knew anything... they want to talk us about themselves like we fell from Mars.

    So they have decided that Muslim Greeks never existed. If only Ottomans and Byzantines never documented anything that would make sense ... but they have books in their libraries that denounce them.
    Turks are not "Greek Muslims". They have significant ancestry from native Anatolian people not Greeks. Greeks are not native Anatolian people. Anatolians = Hittites, Luwians, Lydians, etc. So if you want to deny their Turkic heritage, then it would make more sense to call them "Hittite/Luwian/etc. Muslims" or just "Anatolian Muslims".

    Don't get how they are Greek if they have no cultural connection to Greek. They don't speak Greek, identify as Greek, etc. I don't get why you think "Greek" is a solely genetic term. Why not call them Hittite instead of Greek?

    There did exist a small number of Greeks that converted to Islam and got assimilated into Turks (Vallahades). But they make a small minority of the Turkish nation. Also, there are probably more assimilated Kurds, Persians, Armenians, and Assyrians among Turks than there are assimilated Greeks. So it makes more sense to call them Armenian Muslims than it does to call them Greek Muslims (not saying that calling them Armenian Muslims either makes sense).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bosniensis View Post
    Or maybe we should have sent saharids like Pavlopulos and Kasadiaris who are actually Arabs.
    Christian Arabs are better than Muslim Slavs. If you don't believe this watch this channel of an Arab Christian, he has the habit of proving Muslims to be moron in every fucking video he posts!!!

    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCOl...T4ZYaSgTkqzhhg

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    We might accept your daughters and wives as whores. You won't be the first or the last one. Some lucky girls might get worshipped, but Sandiggers like you don't stand a chance.

    You see, I can bring here Chinese culture and Chinese Gods and yet be 10049589834698346 times more European than Entire Greece.
    There are no Chinese gods you moron. You are too fucking stupid to bring anything, you are a Muslim, a Sandnigger with sand instead of a brain...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kelmendasi View Post
    Not even if the person was more secular and not extreme? In my opinion not accepting someone of your ethnicity based on religion is kinda weird, no offence. But you could argue that I have this view as i'm an Albanian and we don't have close links to religion.
    If he turned Buddhist, Hinduist, Atheist, Sikh or Pagan or whatever else other than Islam noone will care.

    Islam is a no go.
    Being Greek is an experienced grounded into nation, not consumption.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kelmendasi View Post
    Not even if the person was more secular and not extreme? In my opinion not accepting someone of your ethnicity based on religion is kinda weird, no offence. But you could argue that I have this view as i'm an Albanian and we don't have close links to religion.
    Islam is like a an infested cockroach... you want proof? Look at Cyprus, Constantinople.. it spreads like infested rats and damage is done wherever it goes.
    “For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.” Eph. 6:12

    Definition of untrustworthy and loose character are those that don't believe in God.


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    Quote Originally Posted by catgeorge View Post
    Islam is like a an infested cockroach... you want proof? Look at Cyprus, Constantinople.. it spreads like infested rats and damage is done wherever it goes.
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    The Albanians, these tigers of mountain wars ... have as their religion rebellion. Even their worst warrior is one of the strongest and bravest on the battle-field, just as if he was a knight on the legendary horse. But he has no horse, nor proper weapons for battle. Instead of the horse, he has a lance which strikes as lightning, he has spears who's points are full of posion as the sting of hornets, he has also a wooden bow with some arrows. Furthermore, he is stronger than iron ...

    - Ibn Kemal, Historian of the Turkish court during Skanderbeg's war against the Turks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kelmendasi View Post
    Say there was a Greek that had converted to Islam but still considered themselves Greek, would you not view them as a Greek?
    I would buy him his favourite drink, and have him drown on it!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bosniensis View Post
    Because they would have to count those Greeks in Anatolia .. who are guess what... more numerous than entire mainland Greeks.

    Truth is Muslim Greeks speak Turkish language, so that helped them a lot to build that "Greeks were never Muslims" thing... as if WE (other Balkanites) never existed.... or knew anything... they want to talk us about themselves like we fell from Mars.

    So they have decided that Muslim Greeks never existed. If only Ottomans and Byzantines never documented anything that would make sense ... but they have books in their libraries that denounce them.
    All nations have traitors, we have ours. We document them, but only after we shoot them...

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