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    Quote Originally Posted by Moje ime View Post
    rosa = rose = Rosalia = rusa = Rusalka = Russia
    Homer -> Omer -> Homir-> Momir


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    Quote Originally Posted by Crn Volk View Post
    Petro I thought you were a fan of Florin Curta
    I am still a fan of Florin Curta. He is accurate enough. Where do you think I contradict him?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mingle View Post
    Yeah sure lol. Anyways, I decided to look up the etymology of the mythological Slavic Rusalka and its of Greek origin. It comes from the Byzantine Greek word ῥουσάλια (rhousália), which means "mermaid". Wouldn't have guessed a Slavic mythological figure to have Greek origins.

    https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%D1%8...%D0%B0#Russian

    The modern Russian word for "mermaid" is also русалка.
    Somehow the modern Greek word for mermaid is Γοργόνα.

    https://el.wiktionary.org/wiki/%CE%B...8C%CE%BD%CE%B1



    "Μια γοργόνα", του John William Waterhouse
    I doubt that the term is Greek. It might have been recorded in Greek earlier than in Slavic dialects which lacked a written form at the time, but that's as far I would expect it to be...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aspar View Post
    If anyone has to do with the Thracians, those are the Bulgarians and Makedonishtanis, since the Thracian mountaineers were mentioned by the Greek geographer Strabon, that they were the most numerous in Makedonishtan as witnessed by him.
    I doubt so, unless if you classify the Paeonians as Thracians. It is not definite though...

    Many of the Thracians were Hellenized, Latinized and finally Slavicized, but the genes and many traditions are still here!
    Even many toponyms in Makedonishtan are of pre Slavic origin just for your account.
    You as a Romanian have the slightest right to talk about who can be Paleo Balkan or not bc you are not even Balkan!
    Most of the Romanians of today are heavily mixed, Cumans, Slavs, Mongols, Gypsies and whatever not.
    Most of the Romanian results I have seen, score some Mongol genes like Central or North East Asian!
    Makedonishtan have done nothing bad to Romanians and but have been only friends and I know, there are good Romanians who respect us!
    Unfortunately there are many Gypsies like you who actually are Slavic-Gypsy mix and therefore spit at other nations.
    Remember, you are not Dacian, you are a Slavic-Gypsy mix!
    Where was the only Gypsy municipality in the world? Let me check again...

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C5%A0...i_Municipality

    I can't remember if the wheel is the emblem of the Gypsies, the Slavs or the Ancient Paeonians. Could you help me please???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Petros Houhoulis View Post
    I doubt so, unless if you classify the Paeonians as Thracians. It is not definite though...

    Where was the only Gypsy municipality in the world? Let me check again...

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C5%A0...i_Municipality



    I can't remember if the wheel is the emblem of the Gypsies, the Slavs or the Ancient Paeonians. Could you help me please???
    So what were the Paeonians?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crn Volk View Post
    So what were the Paeonians?
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paeonia_(kingdom)#Culture

    The Paeonians included several independent tribes, all later united under the rule of a single king. Little is known of their manners and customs. They adopted the cult of Dionysus, known amongst them as Dyalus or Dryalus, and Herodotus mentions that the Thracian and Paeonian women offered sacrifice to Queen Artemis (probably Bendis). They worshipped the sun in the form of a small round disk fixed on the top of a pole. A passage in Athenaeus seems to indicate the affinity of their language with Mysian.[citation needed] They drank barley beer and various decoctions made from plants and herbs. The country was rich in gold and a bituminous kind of wood (or stone, which burst into a blaze when in contact with water) called tanrivoc (or tsarivos).The scanty remains of the Paeonian language do not allow a firm judgement to be made. On one side are Wilhelm Tomaschek and Paul Kretschmer, who claim it belonged to the Illyrian family, and on the other side is Dimitar Dečev, who claims affinities with Thracian. On the other hand, the Paeonian kings issued coins from the time of Philip II of Macedon onwards, bearing their names written in straightforward Greek. All the names of the Paeonian Kings that have come down to us are, in fact, explainable with and clearly related to Greek (Agis, Ariston, Audoleon, Lycceius, etc.), a fact that, according to Irwin L. Merker, puts into question the theories of Illyrian and Thracian connections.
    The women were famous for their industry. In this connection Herodotus[51] tells the story that Darius, having seen at Sardis a beautiful Paeonian woman carrying a pitcher on her head, leading a horse to drink, and spinning flax, all at the same time, inquired who she was. Having been informed that she was a Paeonian, he sent instructions to Megabazus, commander in Thrace, to deport two tribes of the nation without delay to Asia. An inscription, discovered in 1877 at Olympia on the base of a statue, states that it was set up by the community of the Paeonians in honor of their king and founder Dropion. Another king, whose name appears as Lyppeius on a fragment of an inscription found at Athens relating to a treaty of alliance, is no doubt identical with the Lycceius or Lycpeius of Paeonian coins.[52]

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    Quote Originally Posted by Petros Houhoulis View Post
    Yes, but both names are obviously Slavic and come from the same root. I doubt that Slavs knew dancing before they arrived in the Balkans. Even today your word for dance is "Oro" coming from the Greek "Horos", the root word for choreography (among others...)
    Petros, you know your talking chit, quit with the outrageous lie! Tell me, why do ancient Greeks dance Servikos? Since l like Greeks but l'm offended deeply by your comments above, so why is it that the incredible ancient Greeks, who brought the world and Slavs out of the tree cannot repeat these feats today? However, it takes Slavs and Serbs to bring humanity to where we are today, like Nikola Tesla etc....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Novi Pazar View Post
    Blah, blah, blah. Since l like Greeks but l'm Blag, blah, blah
    How can you like Greeks when they live on Slavic territory(lol), when they displaced your ancestors and now with the help of Vatican they appropriate your “ancient culture “. It is a bit hypocritical to say isn’t it?
    We are full of western propaganda after all, denying the slavness of Macedonia/Balkan, aren’t we?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Novi Pazar View Post
    Petros, you know your talking chit, quit with the outrageous lie! Tell me, why do ancient Greeks dance Servikos?
    Ancient Greeks do not dance anything anymore, but when they did, the Slavs had not even formed yet!

    Since l like Greeks but l'm offended deeply by your comments above, so why is it that the incredible ancient Greeks, who brought the world and Slavs out of the tree cannot repeat these feats today?
    I don't remember claiming such a thing. What I claimed is that modern Slavs have copied heavily from Greek traditions, including Servikos....

    However, it takes Slavs and Serbs to bring humanity to where we are today, like Nikola Tesla etc....
    Tesla was a genius, but not the only one. There are plenty of geniuses out there...

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