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    Update:

    I think I might have found the origin and the etymology of the word Rusalia, while watching a video of an Aromanian folk song:



    From 5:30 of the song, you can see the word 'Rusalia' which is translated to Greek as Pentikosti/Πεντηκοστη!

    I don't know what 'Rusalia' means in Aromanian since I don't speak the language but I've found a translation for the Greek word 'Πεντηκοστη', and according to https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%CF%8...83%CF%84%CE%AE, it means 'Fifty'.

    But, what is most important is the name 'Pentecost' - From the feast called Shavuot, which means "Festival of Weeks" and is the "fiftieth day" after Passover - https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Pentecost.

    So, the word 'Rusalia' is just an Aromanian translation of the Greek word 'Pentikosti/Πεντηκοστη'!

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    Rusallias, in Serbian Rusalje, were Vlach's women from eastern Serbia who were believed to have power to see future, and to speak with dead ancestors, falling in some kind of trance during traditional ritual.

    This is video from 1971 year about them.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Moje ime View Post
    Rusallias, in Serbian Rusalje, were Vlach's women from eastern Serbia who were believed to have power to see future, falling in some kind of trance during traditional ritual.

    This is video from 1971 year about them.

    Really nice, I can see now how the dots get connected.

    It must be Eastern - Central Balkan, Thracian legacy I think!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aspar View Post
    Really nice, I can see now how the dots get connected.

    Vlachs have left big cultural mark on our people and traditions, and not only cultural but genetic mark as well!

    It must be Eastern Balkan, Thracian legacy I think!
    Rusalke are known in Slavic mitology too as a female creatures that live in woods or rivers. Now I'm not sure what is first origin of this. Serbian mitology has similar female creature called "vila".

    But that can mean Thracians had connections with Slavs for long time.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rusalka

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moje ime View Post
    Rusalke are known in Slavic mitology too as a female creatures that live in woods or rivers. Now I'm not sure what is first origin of this. Serbian mitology has similar female creature called "vila".

    But that can mean Thracians had connections with Slavs for long time.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rusalka
    Ofc, there was a connection between the two people!

    The Dacians who were of Thracian origin were neighbors of the Slavs and surely there was a lot of contact among them both!

    Or it can be just shared mythology between the two people, since both of them were Indo-Europeans!

    Also, many Thracian words were similar to Balto-Slavic ones and that deepens the connection even further more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aspar View Post
    Update:

    I think I might have found the origin and the etymology of the word Rusalia, while watching a video of an Aromanian folk song:



    From 5:30 of the song, you can see the word 'Rusalia' which is translated to Greek as Pentikosti/Πεντηκοστη!

    I don't know what 'Rusalia' means in Aromanian since I don't speak the language but I've found a translation for the Greek word 'Πεντηκοστη', and according to https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%CF%8...83%CF%84%CE%AE, it means 'Fifty'.

    But, what is most important is the name 'Pentecost' - From the feast called Shavuot, which means "Festival of Weeks" and is the "fiftieth day" after Passover - https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Pentecost.

    So, the word 'Rusalia' is just an Aromanian translation of the Greek word 'Pentikosti/Πεντηκοστη'!
    What is intriguing about this is that the Greek Pentecost is celebrated around Easter, while the Rusalia event happens around Christmas!

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    It's interesting that Rusalka, mythological Slavic creature, was presented as a young female with long red hair.
    Rusalke were known as mostly evil creatures who like to drown men in water although in Serbian folklore, similar creatures named Vila/e could
    sometimes be helpful to certain people. (here I refer to Serbian folk songs about Marko Kraljevic and his female friend Vila Ravijojla.
    Interesting that according to these folk songs she was living in eastern Serbia mountain - Miroč mountain. )

    Now as I understand, those Vlach women were believe to actually "communicate" with those mythological female creatures refering to them as their
    sisters.

    Also interesting is that in Serbia there was old believe that it is dangerous to go near water during night, probably because of
    these stories.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aspar View Post
    Update:

    I think I might have found the origin and the etymology of the word Rusalia, while watching a video of an Aromanian folk song:



    From 5:30 of the song, you can see the word 'Rusalia' which is translated to Greek as Pentikosti/Πεντηκοστη!

    I don't know what 'Rusalia' means in Aromanian since I don't speak the language but I've found a translation for the Greek word 'Πεντηκοστη', and according to https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%CF%8...83%CF%84%CE%AE, it means 'Fifty'.

    But, what is most important is the name 'Pentecost' - From the feast called Shavuot, which means "Festival of Weeks" and is the "fiftieth day" after Passover - https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Pentecost.

    So, the word 'Rusalia' is just an Aromanian translation of the Greek word 'Pentikosti/Πεντηκοστη'!
    Nope. I still believe that Rusalia comes from Rusalka.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rusalka

    In Slavic folklore, the rusalka (plural rusalki) (Russian: руса́лка, translit. rusálka; Polish: rusałka) is a female entity, often malicious toward humankind and frequently associated with water. Folklorists have proposed a variety of origins for the entity, including that they may originally stem from Slavic paganism, where they may have been seen as benevolent spirits. Rusalki appear in a variety of media in modern popular culture, particularly in Slavic language-speaking countries, where they frequently resemble the concept of the mermaid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Petros Houhoulis View Post
    Nope. I still believe that Rusalia comes from Rusalka.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rusalka
    Doesn't make sense as the Slavs didn't have a warrior dance...
    Thracians who were warlike people did, and 'Rusalia' and 'Rusalka' is not the same, especially since the Vlachs of Meglen also call this dance 'Rusalia'.
    Rusalka on the other hand is some dance in which only women called samodivas participate in it, while making moves as if they are in some trans...
    As I already explained, 'Rusalia' dance is shared with the Albanians and the Romanians who are not Slavic people.

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