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    Quote Originally Posted by Vlatko Vukovic View Post
    There was no Serbian nation formed in 5th century. Also not Albanian. It would be fruitless to argue which it was in 5th century.
    There were also no Greek, German or French nations at that time. The point is that those territories were inhabited by Albanians, Albanian speaking people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bosniensis View Post
    It was South Slavic held territory you happy?
    South Slavic identity wasn't also formed. There are no South Slavs without Sklavenoi, who came after 5th century.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hulu View Post
    There were also no Greek, German or French nations at that time. The point is that those territories were inhabited by Albanians, Albanian speaking people.
    There was Greece (country), there was also Frankish country, but there was no Albanian country, also not Serbian.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vlatko Vukovic View Post
    There was Greece (country), there was also Frankish country, but there was no Albanian country, also not Serbian.
    Nope, no Greece country. Greek speaking people and Albanian speaking people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vlatko Vukovic View Post
    South Slavic identity wasn't also formed. There are no South Slavs without Sklavenoi, who came after 5th century.
    Not even a 10 yr old kid can believe such ridiculous theory where entire Balkans was populated by completely new people that replaced the old one.

    Even a 10 yr old kid would ask: "But what happened to hundreds of thousands, millions that lived there"

    People who think as such embarrass themselves.

    I2 haplogroup was at some point in time the only haplogroup in Europe that migrated from Anatolia, Greece to other parts of Europe. Do you believe they JUMPED OVER Balkans then came here in 5th century?

    That is absurd.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vlatko Vukovic View Post
    There was Greece (country), there was also Frankish country, but there was no Albanian country, also not Serbian.
    There was no Greece (country)!!!
    There was Roman Empire, more specifically Eastern Roman Empire and no, the Slavs didn't come in these places in 5th century but only after the 6th century!
    The first Slavs that came settled in Greece, Macedonia, Bulgaria and Albania!
    The Slavs from which the modern nations of Serbs, Croats and others have formed, arrived in the Western Balkans a little bit later than the first wave that settled more southern!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bosniensis View Post
    Not even a 10 yr old kid can believe such ridiculous theory where entire Balkans was populated by completely new people that replaced the old one.

    Even a 10 yr old kid would ask: "But what happened to hundreds of thousands, millions that lived there"

    People who think as such embarrass themselves.

    I2 haplogroup was at some point in time the only haplogroup in Europe that migrated from Anatolia, Greece to other parts of Europe. Do you believe they JUMPED OVER Balkans then came here in 5th century?

    That is absurd.
    Not literally that only Sklavenoi are the factor of South Slavic ethnogenesis, but really, they were main factor in that. (They brought language, culture, new ways of life, worldview etc...).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aspar View Post
    There was no Greece (country)!!!
    There was Roman Empire, more specifically Eastern Roman Empire and no, the Slavs didn't come in these places in 5th century but only after the 6th century!
    The first Slavs that came settled in Greece, Macedonia, Bulgaria and Albania!
    The Slavs from which the modern nations of Serbs, Croats and others have formed, arrived in the Western Balkans a little bit later than the first wave that settled more southern!
    Not in that time (Greece), but before, and was recorded in any historical documents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vlatko Vukovic View Post
    Not in that time (Greece), but before, and was recorded in any historical documents.
    What means before?
    We are talking about the times when the Slavs have arrived in the Balkans and no there was no Greece by that time!

    There was no Greece even before, but there were many Hellenic city states who were not united but existed as separate entities!
    There was no Greece even after Alexander the Great had unite all those Hellenic city states!

    Greece as a country only came in existence in 19th century!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vlatko Vukovic View Post
    Not literally that only Sklavenoi are the factor of South Slavic ethnogenesis, but really, they were main factor in that. (They brought language, culture, new ways of life, worldview etc...).
    Slavic language was spread by "South Slavs" to Poles and Russians.

    1/4 of all Haplogroups in Russia and Poland is.... I2a1 that came from Balkans.

    Old Russian language called Squirrels "Veverica" but today they don't call it.. rather some Baltic inspired word, while we still do.


    Ilija Gromovnik "thunderer" is still remembered as the old Serbian, Bosnian, Croatia pagan diety.

    How did we wrote "JAT" symbol in the past: я

    ISN'T Descendans of ILIя how Greeks started calling us "Illyrians"?

    Romanized Illyrians are called Vlachs, but they are the same thing as those Turkish Speaking Bosnian and Serbian populace in ottoman empire.

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