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    Quote Originally Posted by Shqipez View Post
    The Ottomans managed to successfully conquer the Balkans and stabilised it compared to other Empires that were clashing. They are not to blame for anything at least not for Kosovo. This is just another myth and victim complex.
    We have early records of Albanians and Vlachs in Kosovo even before Ottomans. Who is to say that if it wasn't for Slavs they would of made the majority ? So let's blame the Slavs then ?
    Slavs just used chaos in the Balkans and settled in times of great migrations. But Ottomans indeed did cause all the political problems of today. Because another great migrations happened and thus such explosive ethnic mix was created.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jana View Post
    There are no orthodox churches in Bosnia older than Ottoman Era, it should tell you enough. Bosnia was Catholic, but it had rising Bogumil presence, and thus Hungarian King led the Catholic crusade against Bosnians.
    Some say, Bosnia fell to Turks so easily and willingly in big part due to that...
    So this proves my point that the Serb invasion towards Kosovo and Macedonia wasn't only about the fact that Bosnia was part of Austria-Hungary and Serbia had no chance to expand there.

    They also didnt have any Orthodox historical heritage there and as we know religion was important in the beginning of the 20th century.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Archduke View Post
    I don't know how long was the Serbian presence in Kosovo, but the Bulgarian empire ruled the region for over 200 years. It wouldnt be surprise if all those Serbian monasteries in Kosovo are actually Bulgarian.
    Yes , I even stated in my previous posts that most of slavic toponyms in Kosovo are Bulgarian and not Serbian.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jana View Post
    Are you serious or trolling ? Vojvodina was integral part of Hungarian Kingdom from year 1000 until 1918, so for more than 9 centuries.
    And before the year 1000?

    Also, I was talking about the populace living there. I already stated that a Hungarian state (Kingdom of Hungary) controlled it before any Serb state did.

    And I have never heard for any Serb presence in Vojvodina in 7th century, it sounds like fantasy. Serbs were nowhere close to Panonnia at that times.
    How is it a fantasy if its well established that Slavs lived there before Hungarians conquered it? Why is it impossible for one of those Slavic tribes to have been Serbs since they originally came from the north?

    If it means anything, Wikipedia lists Serbs as one of the Slavic tribes that settled there:

    During the early medieval migrations, Slavs (Severans, Abodrites, Braničevci, Timočani and Serbs) settled today's Vojvodina in the 6th and 7th centuries.[2] Until the Hungarian conquest in the 10th century, the region had dominant Slavic population.[3]
    Also, in the picture I showed you in my previous reply, it says that Serbs were recorded as at least temporary residents in Vojvodina before being sent to Dalmatia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jana View Post
    I don't like Serbia, our enemy state. Just presented you fact, that is if Ottomans did not occupy the area it would be most likely Serbian majority today.
    Kosovo should be a lesson to European and Western countries about the consequences of not regulated migration.

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    ^^^^^no single document from that time mentions Serbs in Panonnia, but it does mention Croats (not in Vojvodina though)

    According to DAI, Serbs lived in Raska (SW Serbia/N Montenegro/ E Herzegovina), Bosnia (around Drina river), and southern Dalmatia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by canadienne View Post
    I am a Balkan Turk and i say Kosovo is Albania.
    Quote Originally Posted by Galìndas View Post
    I am Russian-speaking Latvian and I think that Kosovo is Serbia.
    I'm an English and Spanish speaking American and I think Kosovo is Serbian

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jana View Post
    Slavs just used chaos in the Balkans and settled in times of great migrations. But Ottomans indeed did cause all the political problems of today. Because another great migrations happened and thus such explosive ethnic mix was created.
    Yougoslavs are the only problem of Balkans. Ottoman came and left. They were actually honorable by not bringing Turkish populations to settle there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Archduke View Post
    So this proves my point that the Serb invasion towards Kosovo and Macedonia wasn't only about the fact that Bosnia was part of Austria-Hungary and Serbia had no chance to expand there.

    They also didnt have any Orthodox historical heritage there and as we know religion was important in the beginning of the 20th century.
    Yes, exactly. But at time when Bosnia was annexed by Austro-Hungary, orthodox Serbs were relative majority in that country.

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    The law of the strongest is still valid today. Anyone who warms up on old stones loses the present. There are no indigenous peoples but only winners and losers. The winner determines the present and the past. There is no more Serbian Kosovo, as well as no Arab Palestine, Kurdish Kurdistan or other Yukon territories of the Native Americans etc. Only the power determines the future.

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