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    Quote Originally Posted by rein View Post
    Not particularly impressed by these other mosques either.
    I'd much rather see a cathedral there but if it is a mosque they need...



    Wake up and smell the coffee.


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    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawspeaker View Post
    I'd much rather see a cathedral there but if it is a mosque they need...
    For 100s of years the Ottomans used Albanians to frighten and terrorize those who rebelled against the Ottomans. This gift from the Turkish people is a thank you for those centuries of loyalty - nothing more.

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    The government is wasting our money for such crap as part of their stupid agenda.

    They are also dreaming of building a large mosque in Izmir (there is not one) but still it didn't happen. Albanians might be Muslims but religion can not be a unifying factor, it never has been. We're even opposed to the building of more mosques in our country.

    If they want to improve the relations we can open schools, much better.

    No one will go to these mosques. People don't give a shit. Mosques are empty even in Turkey, except special occasions. They are doing it just for cheap show-off. There is more mosque in Turkey than needed. Turks and Albanians are not practicing Muslims.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryujin View Post
    The government is wasting our money for such crap as part of their stupid agenda.

    They are also dreaming of building a large mosque in Izmir (there is not one) but still it didn't happen. Albanians might be Muslims but religion can not be a unifying factor, it never has been. We're even opposed to the building of more mosques in our country.

    If they want to improve the relations we can open schools, much better.

    No one will go to these mosques. People don't give a shit. Mosques are empty even in Turkey, except special occasions. They are doing it just for cheap show-off.
    There were so many Christians in Smyrna before the ethnic cleansing in the 20s - the Turks themselves called the city Gavur İzmir - Infidel City. The Turks are doing the right thing to hide that any way they can - the bigger the Mosque to Prophet the better.

    I disagree however when you say Islam is not a unifier. It is the largest unifier on earth and with a religion of conquest - like all the desert religions are (Chrismusjews) - unity is key. In fact Turkey is even more dedicated to unity around Sunni Islam than anything else - the Turkish tax payer funds Sunni Islam Mosques across the globe to the amount of 100s of millions of dollars. Very similar to communism. In the Greek civil war - the first actions of the Greek communists was to murder all Greeks who were left wing but not left wing enough - poor old Psarros being assassinated was just that. Turks are the same. That is why they crushed the Alevis. It is no coincidence that the biggest backers of islam in Greece are communists. They like Sunnis believe in a global revolution.

    One Sunni Islam for the globe and Turkey is establishing itself as the protector again of this dangerous sexist and racist desert movement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marauder View Post
    There were so many Christians in Smyrna before the ethnic cleansing in the 20s - the Turks themselves called the city Gavur İzmir - Infidel City. The Turks are doing the right thing to hide that any way they can - the bigger the Mosque to Prophet the better.

    I disagree however when you say Islam is not a unifier. It is the largest unifier on earth and with a religion of conquest - like all the desert religions are (Chrismusjews) - unity is key. In fact Turkey is even more dedicated to unity around Sunni Islam than anything else - the Turkish tax payer funds Sunni Islam Mosques across the globe to the amount of 100s of millions of dollars. Very similar to communism. In the Greek civil war - the first actions of the Greek communists was to murder all Greeks who were left wing but not left wing enough - poor old Psarros being assassinated was just that. Turks are the same. That is why they crushed the Alevis. It is no coincidence that the biggest backers of islam in Greece are communists. They like Sunnis believe in a global revolution.

    One Sunni Islam for the globe and Turkey is establishing itself as the protector again of this dangerous sexist and racist desert movement.
    The fact that it is not a unifier was understood in WW1 when Arabs rebelled against Turks and massacred many Turkish soldiers allying with the British.

    Around half of Turks strongly reject the Islamic Ottoman agenda of the government.

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    Albanians are intelligent. They will simply play the game. Yet they aren't as good as Bosniaks who literally suck Turkey by posing as Muslim, while in their private life they don't give any heck about Middle Eastern culture or way of life.

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    Albanians have forgiven the Turks because they kinda dislike us Greeks to put it politely, that's a well known fact . Nothing to see here, next.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mongrel View Post
    Albanians have forgiven the Turks because they kinda dislike us Greeks to put it politely, that's a well known fact . Nothing to see here, next.
    How have we forgiven? Our national hero is Skanderbeg who fought the Turks. They building the mosque is just politics. It's been 20 years that the muslim community is asking to build one in Tirana and finally they did it. And their argument was why were the Catholic and Orthodox church allowed in the center of Tirana and not a mosque. After all these years they ran out of excuses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hulu View Post
    How have we forgiven? Our national hero is Skanderbeg who fought the Turks. They building the mosque is just politics. It's been 20 years that the muslim community is asking to build one in Tirana and finally they did it. And their argument was why were the Catholic and Orthodox church allowed in the center of Tirana and not a mosque. After all these years they ran out of excuses.
    Skanderberg became popular and re-intoduced in 20th century when Albania became independent, since they nedeed a national hero to sleep tight in nights. I doubt any Albanian knew his name before that. Don't make it sound like as if Albanians were the arch nemesis of Turks or something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hulu View Post
    How have we forgiven? Our national hero is Skanderbeg who fought the Turks. They building the mosque is just politics. It's been 20 years that the muslim community is asking to build one in Tirana and finally they did it. And their argument was why were the Catholic and Orthodox church allowed in the center of Tirana and not a mosque. After all these years they ran out of excuses.
    People who Skanderberg fought off in his rightful stand against Ottoman tyranny were NOT Turks. Just check out names.
    You have people like Isa Evrenos. Evrenos is Greek name and Isa means Jesus in Arabic, very common among converts back then.
    People being fracticides were not supposed to show mercy to Albanians after all.

    When Albanians were fighting the Ottomans, so were doing Turks in Anatolia. In the end, the tyranny won by posing Turk. Yet many Turks resisted and some even converted to Shia to side with Safavids after Ottomans destroyed their beyliks in Anatolia.

    Scanderberg > Mehmed II

    After 1440s the Ottomans werent Turks anymore.
    The empire was Turkified centuries later during 19th century.

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