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    Quote Originally Posted by Viriato View Post
    Why persecuting people for using their right to vote? You don't even know what they voted for, maybe they are against the name changing. Also what is all the fuss about changing the name, if it can potentially open new doors, investments, NATO\EU in a country where half of the population is unemployed and its citizens have to live in Australia like you do? Ultimately, no matter if they change the name or not people will still call you Macedonian.
    Why persecuting people? Only you people who don't have to live in this world where you are forced to change your identity. Maybe if you experienced someone forcing you to change your identity from Portuguese to something else, you'll understand.

    Also, the fuss is made because our ancestors died for this name Macedonia, and that piece of land called Macedonia. I cant believe that Macedonians are the only ones subject to this discrimination of "ohh so what if you change your name. it's only a name". Disgraceful.

    None will ever understand, because none but Macedonians have had to live through this.

    And since you have to turn it personal, i am born here. But that is irrelevant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by frankhammer View Post
    It is culturally and ethically unacceptable in this society and you know that full well. People come to these nations to escape this behaviour.

    If you didn't want opinions outside of FYROM, then the vote should have been limited to the internal population but as it is not, let them vote freely.
    Did you see anyone stopping them from voting? No. They voted freely. No one touched them.

    And fuck you for saying fyrom you mother fucker.

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    That is what the Republic is known as. And this is voter harassment of the worst kind. Illegal in Australia. Show some respect to the country that has given you so much.
    Nine out of ten concerns are completely unfounded.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vojnik View Post
    Why persecuting people? Only you people who don't have to live in this world where you are forced to change your identity. Maybe if you experienced someone forcing you to change your identity from Portuguese to something else, you'll understand.

    Also, the fuss is made because our ancestors died for this name Macedonia, and that piece of land called Macedonia. I cant believe that Macedonians are the only ones subject to this discrimination of "ohh so what if you change your name. it's only a name". Disgraceful.

    None will ever understand, because none but Macedonians have had to live through this.

    And since you have to turn it personal, i am born here. But that is irrelevant.
    Explain me how changing from Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonian to Republic of North Macedonia is going to ruin your identity?

    Also you can't compare a nation that had its first national awakening in late 19th century with one of the oldest countries in Europe and the world like Portugal.

    Ultimately like I have said before, no one is going to start calling you North Macedonians the same way no one was saying Former Yugoslav Republic Macedonians, people just say Macedonian. The official name of my country is the Portuguese Republic and before it used to be the Kingdom of Portugal but people just use the short form of Portugal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by frankhammer View Post
    That is what the Republic is known as. And this is voter harassment of the worst kind. Illegal in Australia. Show some respect to the country that has given you so much.
    How have i disrespected this country? And do you know how much tax i have paid to this country? This country isn't free. I have made my contributions to it.

    Not known that way by 140 countries world wide that have rightfully recognised it as the Republic of Macedonia.

    It's funny how you guys talk about ethics and morals when it comes to these people getting photographed. But when it comes to a entire country and nation of people being denied their basic human rights, you stay silent and don't show any disgust at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Viriato View Post
    Explain me how changing from Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonian to Republic of North Macedonia is going to ruin your identity?

    Also you can't compare a nation that had its first national awakening in late 19th century with one of the oldest countries in Europe and the world like Portugal.

    Ultimately like I have said before, no one is going to start calling you North Macedonians the same way no one was saying Former Yugoslav Republic Macedonians, people just say Macedonian. The official name of my country is the Portuguese Republic and before it used to be the Portuguese Kingdom but people just use the short form of Portugal.
    This all doesn't matter. I can get in to it but it all doesn't matter what anyone thinks about the historical side of things or what not. The point here is that Macedonians have the right to call their country what they want. We chose independence in 1991 under that name. We deserve the human right as much as anyone.

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    How are basic human rights being denied? There is a vote happening brought about by that nations elected government.

    Of course, voice your opinion, rage against the political system even but don't take photos of voters going about their democratic right then publishing and labeling them traitors to their local community.
    How can you not see how wrong that is.
    Nine out of ten concerns are completely unfounded.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vojnik View Post
    The point here is that Macedonians have the right to call their country what they want.
    Exactly, that's why there is an ongoing vote on whether to change their country’s name or not. It is your people's choice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by frankhammer View Post
    How are basic human rights being denied? There is a vote happening brought about by that nations elected government.

    Of course, voice your opinion, rage against the political system even but don't take photos of voters going about their democratic right then publishing and labeling them traitors to their local community.
    How can you not see how wrong that is.
    Mate. People went to wars for that name and land. Taking a few photos of traitors is nothing compared to what has happened in the past.

    By the way. You are kind of making it sound like it was me who took the pics. No it wasn't! I got it off facebook.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vojnik View Post
    Mate. People went to wars for that name and land. Taking a few photos of traitors is nothing compared to what has happened in the past.

    By the way. You are kind of making it sound like it was me who took the pics. No it wasn't! I got it off facebook.
    That was not my intention.
    Nine out of ten concerns are completely unfounded.

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