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    Quote Originally Posted by Aspar View Post
    There were some other Celtic tribes like Boii and Arverni who attract my attention.
    There was a tribe called Baiounitai or Boinici who settled in modern South Albania and North-West Greece.
    This tribe came during the great migration and is believed to have been a sclavinae.
    But that's not very certain.
    What makes suspicion to me is the name of the tribe and could have been originally a Celtic tribe that have settled somewhere in the Northern Balkans and that has been latinized during Roman times??
    Later as the Slavs arrived, they could have mixed with them and together departed to the South??
    That's the very area which the Vlachs are inhabiting...
    The Arverni never traveled to Southeast Europe to my knowledge.

    The Boii were further north. They traveled to Pannonia (not to be confused with Paeonia) and fought with the Geto-Dacians. Strabo blamed Burebista (Geto-Dacian king) for the extinction of the Celtic Boii and Taurisci.

    Wikipedia says the Baiounitai were a South Slavic tribe and makes no mention of their relation to Celts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vojnik View Post
    Galicnik is a interesting toponym which i can't figure out. Well the GAL part anyway. The ICHNIK part is a Slavic suffix that goes at the end of place names.
    Probably from Proto-Celtic *galn- as I mentioned above. That's assuming that the name comes from Celts. I don't know if there are other theories for the name.

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    The only thing i can think of in Macedonian is GALI which means to caress/rub. But i don't think that would make sense haha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mingle View Post
    Probably from Proto-Celtic *galn- as I mentioned above. That's assuming that the name comes from Celts. I don't know if there are other theories for the name.
    Is there a meaning for GALN?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vojnik View Post
    Is there a meaning for GALN?
    It means "to be able" in Proto-Celtic and was used by Celts to refer to themseves. The gal in words like Gaul, Gael, Gal, Kel (Celtic), etc. come from the same word.

    Its similar to how slovo originally meant "word" in Proto-Slavic but then Slavs used that term to refer to themselves and the term Sloveni, Slovak, Slav, etc. are all derived from it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mingle View Post
    The Arverni never traveled to Southeast Europe to my knowledge.

    The Boii were further north. They traveled to Pannonia (not to be confused with Paeonia) and fought with the Geto-Dacians. Strabo blamed Burebista (Geto-Dacian king) for the extinction of the Celtic Boii and Taurisci.

    Wikipedia says the Baiounitai were a South Slavic tribe and makes no mention of their relation to Celts.
    The only Celtic group that migrated to the Balkans and settled properly were the Scordisci though they only migrated to northern Serbia and were later assimilated by the native populations of the area. I may be missing out some smaller Celtic groups though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kelmendasi View Post
    The only Celtic group that migrated to the Balkans and settled properly were the Scordisci though they only migrated to northern Serbia and were later assimilated by the native populations of the area. I may be missing out some smaller Celtic groups though.
    Yeah, the Scordisci aren't recorded in North Macedonia but they were the closest thing so I thought maybe they settled there since its close to Serbia but their settlement may not have been in the records. Though there's just as much likelihood that it could have been a smaller Celtic tribe we don't know about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mingle View Post
    It means "to be able" in Proto-Celtic and was used by Celts to refer to themseves. The gal in words like Gaul, Gael, Gal, Kel (Celtic), etc. come from the same word.

    Its similar to how slovenin originally meant "word" in Proto-Slavic but then Slavs used that term to refer to themselves and the term Sloveni, Slovak, Slav, etc. are all derived from it.

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    There is some theory that Slavic self-awarness became naturally after their encounter in Panonnia. those; They were divided by Avars, and after they defeated them, and "meet" again with other Slavic tribes, they enknowledge that those tribes are familiar to each other and call themselves "Sloveni" (from the word "slovo" - word, and the "Sloveni" could mean "those who understand each others."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mingle View Post
    The Arverni never traveled to Southeast Europe to my knowledge.

    The Boii were further north. They traveled to Pannonia (not to be confused with Paeonia) and fought with the Geto-Dacians. Strabo blamed Burebista (Geto-Dacian king) for the extinction of the Celtic Boii and Taurisci.

    Wikipedia says the Baiounitai were a South Slavic tribe and makes no mention of their relation to Celts.
    I was trying to suggest that this tribes might have came to southern Balkans as a part of a sclavinae consideration after their initial settlement in the northern Balkans.
    Ofc, this is just a theory of mine.
    And Wikipedia although can be a good source of information, by no means is the most reliable and trustworthy.
    We have no written prove or anything else, that the Baiounitai have spoken Slavic.

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