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    Quote Originally Posted by Defiance View Post
    Old news; no one's afraid of fat anymore. It's carbs that are the boogeyman now. Personally I'm just waiting for people to start blaming protein.
    Carbs aren't bad either, just the processed stuff.

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    Fat is still the bogeyman, just not saturated fat anymore. Trans fat is the biggest bogeyman now and for a good reason. Also, people who go keto are morons, another side of extreme.
    I have tried keto twice and I think it's good for cutting weight but not a permanent diet.


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    Disagree with the sentiments on keto, mainly because I have directly felt the benefits of being on it. It’s less about cutting weight for me and more about the health benefits in relation to healing GI issues, lowering blood glucose, and lowering blood pressure.

    I was in constant pain last year after several surgeries that boosted my blood pressure to 180/100 regularly, as well as shot up my blood glucose, despite strictly following a recommended diet that I had been on while in the hospital for an excess of two months. Did not work, barely managed my health, and only with complete bedrest and constantly sleeping all the time. Whenever I had to use the bathroom or get myself a drink, everything went out the window. BP would shoot up immediately. Wouldn’t be able to do much after my pain inevitably soared. Couldn’t think clearly.

    Keto reduced the need for insulin, blood pressure medication, and pain meds. Keto is a fad diet if you let it be. For me, it’s a life saver that no other way of eating has solved, and medication that has been prescribed to “manage” my health does not affect me quite as much as altering my diet does.

    Maybe you’re fortunate that your eating doesn’t kill you like it does me. You can eat whatever you want to and the most you would have to worry about is getting fat. Not my case.

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    try agar-agar before eating in a green tea is a japanese tasteless algu,you could do jellys with
    ,you need to starve your adypocites if you want loose fat,the good and the bad cholesterol,capscein tabs,very good fat burner,i don't know avoid junk food,for a start,work out a bit ,and use bicycle as transport the best fat burner,roaming too,all the cardio sports my bike more or less like that i run around 20/25 kms/miles/h and i smoke , i am vegan since 15 years more or less, i have 13.5 of blood pression arteries sorry translating the medical terms is not my best

    i true than americans have verry shitty huge industries of shit where everything is transformed sugar even the beans,is not only the fat but the bad sugar too, i like several cups of coffee but with brown sugar from the west indies,it's not white,is better,drink coffee a lot it's one of the best medicine,eat garlic, i don't know i can give you countless of example,omega 3 are fat burner also,my last weight is 68.5 kilogs, i never been so low
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    Quote Originally Posted by metalAphrodite View Post
    Disagree with the sentiments on keto, mainly because I have directly felt the benefits of being on it. It’s less about cutting weight for me and more about the health benefits in relation to healing GI issues, lowering blood glucose, and lowering blood pressure.

    I was in constant pain last year after several surgeries that boosted my blood pressure to 180/100 regularly, as well as shot up my blood glucose, despite strictly following a recommended diet that I had been on while in the hospital for an excess of two months. Did not work, barely managed my health, and only with complete bedrest and constantly sleeping all the time. Whenever I had to use the bathroom or get myself a drink, everything went out the window. BP would shoot up immediately. Wouldn’t be able to do much after my pain inevitably soared. Couldn’t think clearly.

    Keto reduced the need for insulin, blood pressure medication, and pain meds. Keto is a fad diet if you let it be. For me, it’s a life saver that no other way of eating has solved, and medication that has been prescribed to “manage” my health does not affect me quite as much as altering my diet does.

    Maybe you’re fortunate that your eating doesn’t kill you like it does me. You can eat whatever you want to and the most you would have to worry about is getting fat. Not my case.
    I wonder if such results are seen mainly because a) you're indeed losing weight, which will naturally improve your health, and b) because you're cutting out literally ALL processed junk food.

    It's also interesting that ketosis can (and will) be achieved by fasting; ie, starving yourself. I've heard that occasional fasting does carry some great benefits.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Defiance View Post
    I wonder if such results are seen mainly because a) you're indeed losing weight, which will naturally improve your health, and b) because you're cutting out literally ALL processed junk food.

    It's also interesting that ketosis can (and will) be achieved by fasting; ie, starving yourself. I've heard that occasional fasting does carry some great benefits.
    The most, or least, I do in regards to intermittent fasting is skipping breakfast maybe once a week, if that, because I’m not hungry.

    Howver, I do need to eat more frequently on keto, which I will do by eating “fat bombs” consisting of equal parts natural peanut butter/almond butter, coconut oil, and cocoa powder.

    Again, you seem to be glossing over the fact that I was on a diabetic diet while hospitalized for surgeries for two months( this was in May and June last year), then sent home to recover, all on the same diet. So, we’re not talking about me being on junk food one moment then jumping straight to keto. I was on this diet for several months before going back to keto in December. It’s now March, which means almost a full year from the time I can be considered legit on some kind of health diet.

    I still weigh the same amount. I haven’t gone aggressive with keto in the sense that I’m exercising regularly because I’m not in a physical state to do so.

    I went from strict diabetic diet for several months with two types of insulin, two types of bp meds, and opioid meds for pain, to no medications. After my surgeries, I had to relearn how to walk, and I did this by myself while my husband was out of the country. This requires a lot of discipline, and there would be no way I would willingly choose to fuck this up when I have a young child who depends on me to provide some quality of life for her.

    Why would I put myself through keto unless I was desperate to live, and have a quality of life? Especially by doing everything strictly by doctor’s orders via diet and medication and still not seeing any progress. I was getting worse.

    Maybe you don’t want to believe it, but I have had to fight my own body in many different ways to live. Keto has helped me detox from opioids and live mostly pain free. I think you guys are being disrespectful towards me being on keto because you don’t want to understand why diet is important; which is not hard to understand if all you need it for is it remove your belly fat, and nothing else.

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    I'm not being disrespectful; I'm asking questions. I want to know WHY it works for you. I wonder if it's something that you're eating or you're NOT eating that's giving you results, or both?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Defiance View Post
    I'm not being disrespectful; I'm asking questions. I want to know WHY it works for you. I wonder if it's something that you're eating or you're NOT eating that's giving you results, or both?
    Let me get info for you on why it’s supposed to work. I’ll try to post by tomorrow/ later today( 5am for me now).

    For the differences between keto and diabetic diet, keto does do less carb intake( for those doing keto for health problems, intake is less than 20g carbs daily) and replaces that with fat intake.

    The thing is keto may not work for everyone, but it 100% works for me. If I had listened to doctors in regards to diet and meds, I’d still be bedridden on tons of meds and feeling powerless.

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    in the non conventionnal treatments non covered generally by the medicare,in france it's the case if you want detox it's by inside,the roman hydrotherapy of the colon,you need to boost you immuno system,by sudation try the teepee for example
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    Quote Originally Posted by Defiance View Post
    Old news; no one's afraid of fat anymore. It's carbs that are the boogeyman now. Personally I'm just waiting for people to start blaming protein.
    Oh, many still are. Just yesterday I had some lady at the grocery store warn me about getting high cholesterol when I grabbed a carton of five dozen eggs and told her it was mostly all for myself. Only fitness people keep up on modern nutrition.


    Carbohydrates have been bad though. They're important to your diet, but fact is that unhealthy food is mostly carbs. All these pastas, breads, desserts and snacks...

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    Quote Originally Posted by metalAphrodite View Post
    The most, or least, I do in regards to intermittent fasting is skipping breakfast maybe once a week, if that, because I’m not hungry.

    Howver, I do need to eat more frequently on keto, which I will do by eating “fat bombs” consisting of equal parts natural peanut butter/almond butter, coconut oil, and cocoa powder.

    Again, you seem to be glossing over the fact that I was on a diabetic diet while hospitalized for surgeries for two months( this was in May and June last year), then sent home to recover, all on the same diet. So, we’re not talking about me being on junk food one moment then jumping straight to keto. I was on this diet for several months before going back to keto in December. It’s now March, which means almost a full year from the time I can be considered legit on some kind of health diet.

    I still weigh the same amount. I haven’t gone aggressive with keto in the sense that I’m exercising regularly because I’m not in a physical state to do so.

    I went from strict diabetic diet for several months with two types of insulin, two types of bp meds, and opioid meds for pain, to no medications. After my surgeries, I had to relearn how to walk, and I did this by myself while my husband was out of the country. This requires a lot of discipline, and there would be no way I would willingly choose to fuck this up when I have a young child who depends on me to provide some quality of life for her.

    Why would I put myself through keto unless I was desperate to live, and have a quality of life? Especially by doing everything strictly by doctor’s orders via diet and medication and still not seeing any progress. I was getting worse.

    Maybe you don’t want to believe it, but I have had to fight my own body in many different ways to live. Keto has helped me detox from opioids and live mostly pain free. I think you guys are being disrespectful towards me being on keto because you don’t want to understand why diet is important; which is not hard to understand if all you need it for is it remove your belly fat, and nothing else.
    try macrobiotic is better,i never heard about keto and i really don't know what is it,ok now i see cetonic looks barbaric,to me, understand than you have your problem of diabet,you need to detox your liver,like as i say by inside with hydrotherapy,the best to do is go on wikipedia looks at what your symptoms are ,and search a alternative medicine i can really tell you like that because i know more how it's work in europe i haven't been in an hospital since 20 years i have tendency to don't trust to much the med industry,and they famous "miracle" treatments,and be carefull with diabet don't drink alchool it"s can kill you.
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