Elite Avar mtDNA samples from Hungary

[Hudayar]

https://www.biorxiv.org/content/bior...15760.full.pdf

https://www.biorxiv.org/content/bior...1/415760-1.pdf

Inner Asian maternal genetic origin of the Avar period nomadic elite in the 7th century AD Carpathian Basin (Csáky et al. 2018 preprint)

"After 568 AD the nomadic Avars settled in the Carpathian Basin and founded their empire, which was an important force in Central Europe until the beginning of the 9th century AD. The Avar elite was probably of Inner Asian origin; its identification with the Rourans (who ruled the region of today’s Mongolia and North China in the 4th-6th centuries AD) is widely accepted in the historical research. Here, we study the whole mitochondrial genomes of twenty-three 7th century and two 8th century AD individuals from a well-characterised Avar elite group of burials excavated in Hungary. Most of them were buried with high value prestige artefacts and their skulls showed Mongoloid morphological traits. The majority (64%) of the studied samples’ mitochondrial DNA variability belongs to Asian haplogroups (C, D, F, M, R, Y and Z). This Avar elite group shows affinities to several ancient and modern Inner Asian populations. The genetic results verify the historical thesis on the Inner Asian origin of the Avar elite, as not only a military retinue consisting of armed men, but an endogamous group of families migrated. This correlates well with records on historical nomadic societies where maternal lineages were as important as paternal descent."

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taken from: https://anthrogenica.com/showthread....rpathian-Basin

[Pribislav]

What about y dna of Avars? Is there any research?

[Bosniensis]

What about y dna of Avars? Is there any research?

R1a mostly.

Avars, Scythians, East Slavs it's all the same.

[Pribislav]

R1a mostly.

Avars, Scythians, East Slavs it's all the same.

I don't think so for Avars.

Scythians YES.

[Ayetooey]

R1a mostly.

Avars, Scythians, East Slavs it's all the same.

On the island of Hvar 14 percent of the population have P*(xM173) cluster (what that means I don't know) as well as M haplogroup F, both of which are speculated to come from Avars.

https://www.researchgate.net/publica...sland_isolates

[Ayetooey]

Also according to wiki (lol) 66.7 percent of modern day Avar's (mainly in Dagestan) y dna is J1, 7 percent E1

[Kelmendasi]

I don't think so for Avars.

Scythians YES.

Scythians were mostly R1b-Z2103 carriers, as shown by ancient DNA samples.

[Maintenance]

R1a mostly.

Avars, Scythians, East Slavs it's all the same.

J not R

[Kelmendasi]

Also according to wiki (lol) 66.7 percent of modern day Avar's (mainly in Dagestan) y dna is J1, 7 percent E1

The Avars of Dagestan aren't the same as the possibly Turkic Avars that invaded Pannonia. They have the same name but shouldn't be mixed up as they are two separate people. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pannonian_Avars, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avars_(Caucasus)

[Ayetooey]

The Avars of Dagestan aren't the same as the possibly Turkic Avars that invaded Pannonia. They have the same name but shouldn't be mixed up as they are two separate people. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pannonian_Avars, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avars_(Caucasus)

Interesting, seems like there's no proof of any link. The Hvar sample is probably more useful then.