Which of these 2 countries has more Germanic influence?

**Pribislav** · 10-08-2018, 02:04 PM

Originally Posted by Seya

all royal houses of europe have german blood.

Not Serbian one https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karađorđević_dynasty

**Peterski** · 10-08-2018, 02:21 PM

If we look just at I1-M253 then Russians have more of it (higher % of the population) than Italians:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_I-M253

**Not a Cop** · 10-08-2018, 02:29 PM

Originally Posted by renaissance12

Historical Exchanges between Italy and Germany are clear and well written in the history books of the schools..... What are historical Exchanges between Russia and Germany ?

Since Peter the Great times Russia was built with orientation toward Germanic states of NW Europe+France. Also 10-25% of influential persons in different areas were ethnic Germans\Germanics.

**Mingle** · 10-08-2018, 02:38 PM

Italy by far. They still have a Germanic-speaking region to this day (Trentino-South Tyrol) and a state named after a Germanic tribe (Lombardy). A Germanic state (Switzerland) also controls Lombard/Italic-speaking land (Ticino). They border Germanic lands and several Italian & Germanic polities have overlapping borders (Roman Empire, Orthogothic Kingdom, etc).

**Mingle** · 10-08-2018, 02:39 PM

Originally Posted by Not a Cop

Since Peter the Great times Russia was built with orientation toward Germanic states of NW Europe+France. Also 10-25% of influential persons in different areas were ethnic Germans\Germanics.

Also, the modern Russian flag is based off a Germanic country's flag (Netherlands).

**Not a Cop** · 10-08-2018, 02:41 PM

Originally Posted by Mingle

Also, the modern Russian flag is based off a Germanic country's flag (Netherlands).

Well i wouldn't put it as an important factor.

**Mingle** · 10-08-2018, 02:50 PM

Originally Posted by Not a Cop

Well i wouldn't put it as an important factor.

What was the exact reason for basing Russian flag off the Dutch Republic flag? Wasn't it to orient Russia towards Western Europe or something? I'm not sure on the exact details.

Btw, funny how the colors of a Germanic flag became the colors of Pan-Slavism.

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**Peterski** · 10-08-2018, 02:58 PM

Interesting that there is a great divide between Germans and Italians today:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-19813284

https://amp.handelsblatt.com/meinung.../22624838.html

**Georgia** · 10-08-2018, 03:36 PM

Originally Posted by Pribislav

Not Serbian one https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karađorđević_dynasty

They have,because the last Queen of Yugoslavia was Alexandra of Greece,daughter of a Greek commoner,Aspasia Manou,and King Alexander of Greece from the house of Glucksbourg.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexandra_of_Yugoslavia
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_of_Greece
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Glücksburg

**Pribislav** · 10-08-2018, 03:47 PM

Originally Posted by Georgia

They have,because the last Queen of Yugoslavia was Alexandra of Greece,daughter of a Greek commoner,Aspasia Manou,and King Alexander of Greece from the house of Glucksbourg.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexandra_of_Yugoslavia
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_of_Greece
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Glücksburg

I thought it was refer on direct patenal line.

King Peter II was 1/2 Serb https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_II_of_Yugoslavia
Prince Alexander is 1/4 Serb https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexan..._of_Yugoslavia

Rulers before King Peter II were fully Serbs, if we not count Alexander I, he was half Montenegrin (in his time Montenegrins considered themselves for Serbs).