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    Default Holocaust Deniers; What Happened To Poland's Jews?

    Prior to World War Two around 10% of Polish citizens were Jews who comprised about 3.5 million people. I have never seen evidence to suggest Poland had less than 3 million Jews prior to WW2;

    According to the 1931 National Census there were 3,130,581 Polish Jews measured by the declaration of their religion. Estimating the population increase and the emigration from Poland between 1931 and 1939, there were probably 3,474,000 Jews in Poland as of September 1, 1939 (approximately 10% of the total population) primarily centered in large and smaller cities: 77% lived in cities and 23% in the villages. They made up about 50%, and in some cases even 70% of the population of smaller towns, especially in Eastern Poland.[83] Prior to World War II, the Jewish population of Łódź numbered about 233,000, roughly one-third of the city’s population. The city of Lwów (now in Ukraine) had the third largest Jewish population in Poland, numbering 110,000 in 1939 (42%). Wilno (now in Lithuania) had a Jewish community of nearly 100,000, about 45% of the city's total.[85] In 1938, Kraków's Jewish population numbered over 60,000, or about 25% of the city's total population. In 1939 there were 375,000 Jews in Warsaw or one third of the city's population. Only New York City had more Jewish residents than Warsaw.
    According to mainstream historians around 3 million Polish Jews died in the Holocaust at the hands of the Nazis and their allies.

    Holocaust deniers; what happened to those 3 million Jews?
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    1/5 of Poland's population died as a result of World War II. Of course Jews would be included in casualties.
    The rest emigrated to the US(unfortunately) and Israel

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    Quote Originally Posted by Profileid View Post
    1/5 of Poland's population died as a result of World War II. Of course Jews would be included in casualties.
    The rest emigrated to the US(unfortunately) and Israel
    There is no evidence for an increase in the Jewish populations of either the USA or Israel amounting to some 2.7 million according to immigration & census figures for either country;





    By 1950, for instance, Israel's entire population was 1,370,000 including Jews from Muslim countries, Arabs etc.

    Please provide evidence to back up your contention.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anglojew View Post
    There is no evidence for an increase in the Jewish populations of either the USA or Israel amounting to some 2.7 million according to immigration & census figures for either country;





    By 1950, for instance, Israel's entire population was 1,370,000 including Jews from Muslim countries, Arabs etc.

    Please provide evidence to back up your contention.
    You're conveniently leaving out the Jews who died during the war just like other polish civilians

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    Quote Originally Posted by Profileid View Post
    You're conveniently leaving out the Jews who died during the war just like other polish civilians
    No, I deducted 20% from the Jewish population (your statistic above) around 680,000 people.

    This leaves around 2,700,000 Jews unaccounted for.

    Census evidence proves they didn't migrate to Israel or the US as you thought. Again, please provide evidence to the contrary or another explanation to their disappearance.


    Edit: I should clarify about 500,000 survived the Holocaust according to academics
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    Quote Originally Posted by Profileid View Post
    1/5 of Poland's population died as a result of World War II. Of course Jews would be included in casualties.
    The rest emigrated to the US(unfortunately) and Israel
    Nope. Emigration of Jews to the US took place between ca. 1830 and ca. 1930:

    https://www.myjewishlearning.com/art...ree-waves/amp/

    Already in 1930 there were at least 4 million Jews living in the USA, long before WW2.

    After 1930 you had quotas on Jewish immigration and only few came:

    https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/conte...-law-1921-1980

    "KEY FACTS

    1. In 1921 and 1924, the US Congress passed immigration laws that severely limited the number and “national origin” of new immigrants. These laws did not change in the 1930s, as desperate Jewish refugees attempted to immigrate from Nazi Germany."


    In period 1830 to 1930 in total some 3,060,000 Jews emigrated from Europe to North America, including 2,900,000 just to the USA (of them 2,447,438 in period 1881 - 1932, around 1,500,000 in period 1900 - 1914, while 296,852 in period 1919 - 1925, and only 65,841 in period 1925 - 1932).

    There were a few Jews in the USA also before 1830, for example in 1790 Jews were 0,25% of the U.S. population.
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    Already in year 1900 the USA had at least 1,500,000 Jews (2% of the total population which was 76 million). In the early 1930s the largest Jewish Diaspora in the world was in the USA, and amounted to between 4,100,000 and 4,200,000 people.Today it is estimated that there are 6 million Jews in the USA and most of the increase since 1930 has been due to natural growth, not new immigration.

    So Etain is completely wrong when claiming that American Jews came there after WW2.

    Emigration of Jews from Poland to Israel also took place already before WW2.

    Polish government supported the Zionists and their plans of creating Israel.

    Romania cooperated with Poland in transporting Jewish settlers to Palestine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peterski View Post
    Already in year 1900 the USA had at least 1,500,000 Jews (2% of the total population which was 76 million). In the early 1930s the largest Jewish Diaspora in the world was in the USA, and amounted to between 4,100,000 and 4,200,000 people.Today it is estimated that there are 6 million Jews in the USA and most of the increase since 1930 has been due to natural growth, not new immigration.

    So Etain is completely wrong when claiming that American Jews came there after WW2.

    Emigration of Jews from Poland to Israel also took place already before WW2.

    Polish government supported the Zionists and their plans of creating Israel.

    Romania cooperated with Poland in transporting Jewish settlers to Palestine.
    Correct.

    Once can argue about the exact number of Jewish deaths being from 5 to 7 million & exactly how they died eg death camps, disease etc but Holocaust denials fall short in explaining what happened to Poland's (Hungary's etc) Jews.
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    Maybe as part of WW2 reparations, Germany should bring us back our 3 million Jews that they killed:




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